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Susan Breininger
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I've been wondering about what folks with retired racers feed them in the morning - I've seen references to "cereal" and "Wheatabix" but that didn't seem like a particularly good meal for a dog. I assume that they're given more than just cereal. I've also seen references to milk but I've been under the impression that milk doesn't agree with dogs, hence the flatulence some have described.

SO . . my question is: What exactly do you feed in the morning?

I ask because mine have become totally disinterested in their morning kibble/canned Pedigree mixture. I've cut the amount I feed in half and even then have to "cajole" them into eating - I wouldn't bother except that 3 of the 4 have to take medicines and need something in their tums!

My latest brainstorm of a solution is to only feed them a little in the evening to see if they'll gobble up in the morning!

Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions gladly received!

Mahalo Nui - Susan


Ann Karamoutzos
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Hi Susan,

My couch potatoes get about a third of their daily intake in the morning - the rest at night.
Breakfast is a combination of raw meats, usually 80% beef or roo or rabbit, with 20% lamb heart/ox tongue/ofal and a couple of chicken necks on top.

I don't feed any processed food to my dogs.

Ann


Susan Breininger
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Thanks, Ann - I'm afraid mine are stuck with processed food - feeding raw here would be astronomical!


Carole Brown
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Susan, If they are not particularly active, they may not need breakfast at all. Racing greyhounds are fed a strict diet and need 2 meals a day. We have 2 pet dogs ( not greyhounds), and they never seem to be hungry in the mornings, even though food is there for them if they want it. If you are desperate to get them to eat, try a tin of cat food for a change. Greyhound fussy eaters often love a can of Whiskas ocean fish, and often pregnant brood bitches, who go off their food, love a can of this. Good luck, Carole.


Ann Karamoutzos
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Cost wise Susan, I feed two greys for around $1 per day.
Sure, buying in bulk helps, but I find raw much cheaper than a super premium kibble, and I believe much better for them.

Ann


Susan Breininger
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Yea, Carole!! That's just about what I've arrived at - they're not active other than the usual "retired" walks etc. - my thinking, though, has been that they should have their large meal in the morning before the day's activities and the smaller one in the evening when all they do is sleep - I gave them "half rations" this evening to see how it goes - the other "fly in the ointment" as far as feeding once goes is that they all need medicine of one sort or another twice a day so they need something in their stomachs!

Ann - I've got 4 to feed and I haven't the space to buy in bulk even if I could find a place that would sell bulk to an individual - we don't many choices here - but the weather's fabulous! LOL


Julie Sadler
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Hi Ann

I'm lucky -like you I can feed raw very reasonably in the UK - I'd definitely swop Susan's weather with ours tho - it's August and we've had torrential rain and gales for weeks!!!!

Hi Susan

I have the same problem as you that I need to get some food in my old boy for some of his meds ...what's working at the moment (and knowing him that'll probaby change tomorrow) is a chicken sandwich .. no butter etc as he gets colitis from cooked fat, then I can give him his tabs. Meanwhile Tigger the greyhound gets her 1.2lb of raw beef/rabbit/tripe /lamb split between 2 feeds with a dessertspoonful of cooked brown rice and chopped up veg with water and plain yoghurt added to each - being Tigger it all vanishes!

Best wishes



Clare Graham
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Hi Susan

I used to split Doc's daily allowance of kibble with some tinned food between his morning and his evening meals and like you I found he would often leave his breakfast, even after he'd had a walk first. These days after the walk he gets a couple of raw chicken wings instead and he loves those. What was breakfast is now served at lunchtime and again always gets eaten now, as does dinner which is the big meal and is served about 6 p.m. After that he is happy to settle down for the evening and indeed the night.

So he gets three meals a day which suits us but if you don't want to start offering raw to your hounds (which would be quite an undertaking I can see!), how about trying leaving 'breakfast' until lunchtime and seeing if like Doc they have become hungrier then?

Alternatively I'm sure serving the main meal in the morning and a lighter meal later could work, once they get used to the switch. I know that this is how they do it at the RGT kennels Doc came from, and sometimes goes back to for holiday boarding. I'm always assured that he's eaten like a horse when I go and pick him up so he can't have too many problems adapting back!


Bobbi Lloyd
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Ifeed twice a day and I too have found a couple of mine who are eating less in the morning if not at all.

I cut their food back in the am and try to get them out to exercise if possible but alot of times the mornings just don't allow time for that.

I have been sprinkling parmesan cheese or shredded cheese over their food and that helps. They always love their yogurt so that helps too.
I cut back everyone's amount of kibble in the morning during the summer months any ways.

Susan you can always try cooking like I do. I cook enough for 5 days and keep it in the fridge and a a spoonful to their kibble each meal.
Chicken thighs 4
1 can each of green peas and beans
2 carrots sliced up
1 cup of rice,
a handful of pasta
3 or so cups of water

I bring it to a boil then turn it down and let it simmer for hours until the chicken falls off the bone. Remove the bones and flake the meat with a fork, mix it all up and in the fridge it goes.

Try a small batch and see if it works.

Bobbi


Susan Breininger
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Yes, Bobbi - I used to cook chicken & brown rice but they even stopped gobbling that up! Maybe I'll try it again with the vegies & pasta & see what happens! Thanks for the recipe! What kind of pasta do you use?

Clare - that's mine to a tee! Maybe I'll just wait 'til late morning or noonish to even offer them anything - the next time I find wings on sale I'll give that a try too - I know they love duck necks - I can get them cheap at the market in Chinatown but it does give them "pudding poops" - I've not yet tried the chicken wings but that would sure be a good "appetizer"!



Wayne Larson
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Max has been visiting here with Star for the last 10 days while his owner is on a canoe trip in Northern Canada. Twice-daily feedings for the boys have included these and more:

Scrambled eggs and kibble
Chicken piccata, angel-hair pasta and kibble
Canned dog food (would you believe Cowboy Cookout?) and kibble
Bacon, cheese, tomato and green pepper omelet and kibble
Chicken pad thai and kibble
Grilled hamburger and kibble
Grilled pork chop and kibble
Sausage, mushroom and pepperoni pizza
Spaghetti with meat sauce and kibble
Grilled chicken breast, steamed rice, green beans and kibble
Tilapia, Potatoes Anna and kibble

Star has been living on this kind of diet going on six years now. He weighed 70 pounds when we adopted him and hasnt gained or lost more than one pound ever since. And you can still see his ribs, though my wife is convinced that someday hell suffer a coronary. Am I doing something wrong?



Carole Brown
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You can come and be the cook at our house any day, Wayne !!! Just leave out a couple of things, like the kibble and canned dog food.



Helen Bowden
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I'm the Weetabix feeder with a drop of skimmed milk and water for brekkie. They enjoy it and it doesn't give them the runs. In fact my 2 never have the runs. They have a pigs ear mid morning after morning walkies. Then they have their kibble with veg or scraps or sardines in the evening. They seem happy and healthy. We were recommended cereal in the morning by our re-homing kennel. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Carole Brown
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Lots of trainers out here use that for brekky, too, Helen, with some honey or glucose.


Heather Giles
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Hi Susan

We have one retired (coursing) greyhound who we've had since March. She's not our first dog but she's our first greyhound. She is on a raw/natural diet and her breakfast and dinner are virtually identical:

raw mince (approx 250g)
raw food-processed vegetables (brocolli & carrots)
cooked pasta & rice
handful of Hound mixer biscuits (high oil content)
Moblity herb supplement
Seaweed & Rosehip
Garlic Plus (for parasites)
Hemp Oil (omega 3's & 6's)
Above mixed up with chicken stock

I vary the mince with raw chicken wings, sardines, pilchards, etc.
She looks great on this with a lovely coat and plenty of energy. She gets walked 3 times a day during the week and gets two good walks at the weekend, mostly off the lead and she gets plenty of opportunity to run.

I have noticed that recently her appetite has fallen off in the mornings and she hasn't been finishing off. If I take what she leaves into work with me she will finish it off after I've walked her at lunchtime. She's definitely not sick.

I have simply cut down and given her a much smaller breakfast. I give her milk mixed with water once a day, she loves it and it doesn't upset her stomach. According to my greyhound book trainers and breeders worldwide use milk, bread, and breakfast cereals to feed their dogs, flying in the face of everything I had believed about canine nutrition. Also she loves tea and will drink it out of our mugs if she gets the chance (which she doesn't often). Other than that she doesn't scrounge or steal food.




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20 Aug 2008 15:58


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reired dogs dont need breakfast!!



Helen Bowden
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Tell that to my 2 Andrew. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Carole the honey will go down well I'm sure! xxxxxxxxxx



Wayne Larson
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How many of you feed your dogs to stop them from giving you that forlorn greyhound look like you're starving them to death?!


Ann Karamoutzos
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20 Aug 2008 20:46


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Andrew Wilson wrote:

reired dogs dont need breakfast!!

maybe not Andrew - but isn't that what "retirement" is all about?

you know, lie ins, newspaper in bed, bacon & eggs (I'm talking human retirement here..lol)


John David
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hi how many weatbix a day you feed them regards

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