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Tom Richards Australia (Verified User) Posts 1003 Dogs 0 / Races 0 02 Jun 2012 01:21
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pls note, when ever a NSW player fronts the tribunal at origin time, he is found not guilty.
Who is running the show???
Scott Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1948 Dogs 4 / Races 0 02 Jun 2012 10:28
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Selectors run the show,QLD's selectors,especially. State of Origin,my arse. State of wherever the hell we can find a decent player lol. It's always a fun time year,isn't it???
Scott Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1948 Dogs 4 / Races 0 02 Jun 2012 12:00
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Heard it last night.....absolute classic.
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 03 Jun 2012 05:53
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They have to make a permanent set of rules for eligibility...
My rules...Where you first are registered as a player for 3 yrs...regardless of age...
e.g. Bill plays for ??? in NSW...under 8's and 9's but the family moves to Qld where he plays the rest of his yrs...Qld S of O player...
Bob plays 3 yrs under 6' 7' 8's in NSW for ??? family moves to W.A. he later makes S OF O NSW player...
NO PLAYER WHO IS BORN IN ANOTHER COUNTRY AND PLAYS THERE FOR 3 YRS. IS ALLOWED TO PLAY S of O...
Scott Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1948 Dogs 4 / Races 0 03 Jun 2012 06:17
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As long as he they are black and white,as he Maroons have been bending them for decades. I'd just make it wherever your first play league,at whatever age. It's State of Origin....origin being the operative word.
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 04 Jun 2012 02:31
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Bit harsh if you move interstate after only one year as say a seven year old...but if you played for 3 yrs. you would think a kid would then have some alligence to were he was playing...
Scott Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1948 Dogs 4 / Races 0 04 Jun 2012 05:52
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Grant,it's State of ORIGiN. Origins are where you're from,not where you played footy. That's my opinion,anyway,and even that's taking liberties. You're true State of Origin would be where you are born,though even I'd say that's taking it a bit far.
Owen Thomson Australia (Verified User) Posts 64 Dogs 0 / Races 0 04 Jun 2012 10:36
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penalty count first half to the blues what odds ????????
Scott Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1948 Dogs 4 / Races 0 04 Jun 2012 11:14
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If so,the maroons will win the second!!
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 1193 Dogs 2 / Races 20 05 Jun 2012 07:46
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Scott Jackson wrote:
Grant,it's State of ORIGiN. Origins are where you're from,not where you played footy. That's my opinion,anyway,and even that's taking liberties. You're true State of Origin would be where you are born,though even I'd say that's taking it a bit far.
Where did you find that rule Scott. The concept began with QLD players returning to represent their state, the state the began their football careers. Rules obviously had to be drawn up and where you first played senior football was one.
Scott Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1948 Dogs 4 / Races 0 05 Jun 2012 08:07
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It's not a rule Dan,just my opinion.
Ray Brown Australia (Team Member) Posts 6225 Dogs 8 / Races 5 05 Jun 2012 19:24
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Well the rumour proved to be right, whether factual or not...both referees have been replqaced.
Owen Thomson Australia (Verified User) Posts 64 Dogs 0 / Races 0 11 Jun 2012 05:29
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funny though ,if it was on the other foot and the blues were winning ,qld would have run out of excuses after two years lol, but you guys would still be whinging , YES 7 years later.
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 1193 Dogs 2 / Races 20 11 Jun 2012 07:46
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Depends who's foot you was talking to Owen. Now if you was talking to my foot, it would tell you that it dont give a damn who wins as long as it is a good even game and not decided by a ref's call. When myself and good friends of mine played we played to win, as did the boys i coached over a number of years. However i also knew how to accept defeat and built that same attitude in the boys. It is funny though, because after the siren there are no excuses and no point in having a whinge. Maybe it is funny that the BLUES are losing and their supporters are having a seven year whinge.
Scott Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1948 Dogs 4 / Races 0 11 Jun 2012 11:56
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Not all of us Dan. I never blamed THAT decision on NSW losing the first game. I have,however,being saying for 15-20 years that QLD have rorted the rule book in regards to where their players come from. You're right what you say,winnings great,but Knowing how to accept defeat is important,too.
Doug Taylor Australia (Verified User) Posts 1896 Dogs 22 / Races 1 11 Jun 2012 12:28
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I agree that they have to come up with a hard and fast rule about firstly if a player is eligible for Origin at all and if so who they will play for well before they are about to be a possibility of selection.
It is funny though when all the talk of it not being fair and players only playing for their state of birth etc that there isn't a lot of mention of names like Tamou, Nagas, McManus, El Masri and Sterling to name a few.
It goes on both sides of the border and I think we'd all like it decided once and for all so we can just bask in the glory of another series victory!!! QLDER!! :o)
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 11 Jun 2012 15:01
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Doug Taylor wrote:
I agree that they have to come up with a hard and fast rule about firstly if a player is eligible for Origin at all and if so who they will play for well before they are about to be a possibility of selection.
It is funny though when all the talk of it not being fair and players only playing for their state of birth etc that there isn't a lot of mention of names like Tamou, Nagas, McManus, El Masri and Sterling to name a few.
It goes on both sides of the border and I think we'd all like it decided once and for all so we can just bask in the glory of another series victory!!! QLDER!! :o)
I sort of did...
I wouldn't begrudge El Masri as he played all his league in NSW...
He played his junior football in N.Z. and represented N.Z. as a junior and senior( N.Z. Maori's)
EXTERNAL LINK Sterling is a BLUE...Born in Qld but didn't start playing until he was living in Wagga Wagga...
EXTERNAL LINK So out of those 3...2 played there 1st games and continued playing only in NSW...
The other started playing in N.Z. & represented N.Z.
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 1193 Dogs 2 / Races 20 11 Jun 2012 18:59
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Scott Jackson wrote:
Not all of us Dan. I never blamed THAT decision on NSW losing the first game. I have,however,being saying for 15-20 years that QLD have rorted the rule book in regards to where their players come from. You're right what you say,winnings great,but Knowing how to accept defeat is important,too.
Scott both states have used(rorted) the system to their advantage, not just Qld and the rule is where you first play senior. I think we all know who controls the game mate and they dont wear maroon. When out on the paddock you do whatever it takes to win and seems nowdays with the games executives its playon well before the whistle is even blown.
Scott Jackson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1948 Dogs 4 / Races 0 12 Jun 2012 02:11
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Doug,Adrian Lam was a PNG captain???? Sterling at least grew up in Wagga. Anyway,cut the crap and just make it where you play your first footy...not seniors,not graded,not representative,just footy. Simple,a hard and fast rule,done. If you played U6's in Mount Isa,hen moved to Canberra,you're a QLDer. The rules leave things open to the discretion of officials and players themselves.....how is that??
Jim Meletios Australia (Verified User) Posts 592 Dogs 0 / Races 0 12 Jun 2012 05:08
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Scott believe it or not I agree with you 100%....wherever you first laced up the boots is who you represent....forever.
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