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Ray Brown Australia (Team Member) Posts 6226 Dogs 8 / Races 5 03 Dec 2019 05:06
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That's terrific if you could forecast both the 2nd Pakistani batting performance and the weather?! Like I said it's a team sport and 'winning' is the name of the game, no place for Prima Donna's or personal records, if they come in course of the game unfolding all good, otherwise tough titties!
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 04 Dec 2019 08:11
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I don't remember the circumstances but did Lara's record come in the course of the game unfolding ?
Ray Brown Australia (Team Member) Posts 6226 Dogs 8 / Races 5 04 Dec 2019 19:07
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Who cares...but for the record here are the circumstances, the series was already won by England so the result was a non event.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6018 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Dec 2019 01:12
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Sad to hear of the passing of former English Quick, Bob Willis Always gave 100% when bowling, and never heard a bad word about him.
Like Courtney Walsh never seemed to break down. Not Like our Aussie SOFTIES.
RIP Big Fella. A true competitor & Gentleman.
Peter Gurry Australia (Verified User) Posts 9255 Dogs 18 / Races 25 05 Dec 2019 02:41
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Nick named Chook as they said he run in to bowl like one. I was there in Leeds in 81 when he cleaned us up (8/43)in the 2nd innings. Lillee and Marsh's got the 500/1 bet on odds placed by Godfrey Evans (bookies odds man) who subsequently got sacked by the bookies after that. You'd like this Huss Mockers had backed the Aussies at 3/1 for 10 pounds at the start of the test at the tent at the ground. I didn't take the VAT 10% option up front only ie: on wager amount but would pay the tax if they won 10% of winnings. So in short I didn't pay any Tax but I didn't win either. Could of been when the Mocking started backing the Aussies in that unlosable test maybe Lille got word I had a bet on us and told Bucchas to join him in a 10 quid wager coz the Mock was on. - Macwollie BTW RIP Chook
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Dec 2019 03:46
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RAY BROWN wrote:
Who cares...but for the record here are the circumstances, the series was already won by England so the result was a non event.
I do(as well as many other Australians), that's why I asked the question. You cld argue the same here, a 2 test series against the Paki's, the result was already decided.....let Davey bat on. He's not a captains @rsehole Paine (actually he is an @rsehole), Warner getting the record was far more important for Aus cricket than winning that test imho.
In the long run what are you going to remember Aust winning the 2nd Test against Pakistan or Warner's 400+ world record ?
There's no one at the helm of Aus cricket that can make a correct call.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6018 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Dec 2019 05:06
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
RAY BROWN wrote:
Who cares...but for the record here are the circumstances, the series was already won by England so the result was a non event.
I do(as well as many other Australians), that's why I asked the question. You cld argue the same here, a 2 test series against the Paki's, the result was already decided.....let Davey bat on. He's not a captains @rsehole Paine (actually he is an @arsehole), Warner getting the record was far more important for Aus cricket than winning that test imho.
In the long run what are you going to remember Aust winning the 2nd Test against Pakistan or Warner's 400+ world record ?
There's no one at the helm of Aus cricket that can make a correct call.
I agree with Ray, Rhyno there is no "I" in Team. Your right it was only Pakistan, on a Dead Flat track. The No7 Paki spin bowler made a "Ton"!!
Yeah I also think Paine! is just that. I can remember Ian or Greg Chappell declaring when a player was in the nineties, years ago. Can't remember the player though!
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Dec 2019 05:12
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but the series was already won Terry, it was only a 2 test series
Ray Brown Australia (Team Member) Posts 6226 Dogs 8 / Races 5 05 Dec 2019 06:47
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
but the series was already won Terry, it was only a 2 test series
Only because the batman goes by the name of Dave Warner! Funny thing is, if I remember correctly, after sandpaper gate,YOU actually declared that he should never be picked to play for Australia again, now you want him to have the test batting record...go figure! (lol)
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Dec 2019 07:15
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not at all just about Davey.....I still stand by what I said with sandpaper gate that's why I'm making the comment about Paine's disgraceful declaration with no bias, it wldn't matter who was batting.
where as you Ray are more of a Karma's a bitch type bloke(tic).....look what's happening to poor Kev on the front page
Ray Brown Australia (Team Member) Posts 6226 Dogs 8 / Races 5 05 Dec 2019 09:03
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Who the hell is 'Kev', and what's he got to do with me anyway.
In any case, you are the one with the 'agenda', not me, I'm simply replying to your question!!!
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Dec 2019 15:46
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no agenda here Ray.....just saying Paine's a goose.
btw I did say (tic) - "tongue in cheek" ..box 1 kibble topic re Kev
Ray Brown Australia (Team Member) Posts 6226 Dogs 8 / Races 5 05 Dec 2019 19:37
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Oh so sorry, I thought that you were on about WARNER? (lol)
You learn something everyday, I thought that (tic) meant something that nearly sent me to the verge of suicide, like 'Talking Idiotic Crap' (lol) I feel much better now and have gotten over my hurt feelings. Thank You. (lol,lol,lol)
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4318 Dogs 0 / Races 0 24 Dec 2019 13:19
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Davey might not be playing, depends on the hand!
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 31 Dec 2020 12:25
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no Davey, no Australia ?
Ray Brown Australia (Team Member) Posts 6226 Dogs 8 / Races 5 31 Dec 2020 20:56
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There is no doubt that Warner & Pucovski are the 2 best openers on shown form, the worry is, both have been out with injury and have not played for a while, as well, their fitness would be below 100% so despite the fact that on paper, we have the opening problem solved, the danger is that they may not yet be in best form condition and too fresh...we shall soon see and hopefully they step in where they left off and fond best form instantly. Besides having 'opener' problems, Australia's entire batting is very out of sorts at the moment, particularly SMITH, he is definitely stale as his habit of moving across in front of his stumps is now coming home to roost and failing him, he has to be at his supreme best to be able to pull this bad habit off again. It is a very dangerous move and it is only his great eye and ability that has allowed him to continually get away with it.
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4318 Dogs 0 / Races 0 31 Dec 2020 23:16
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Once again the batting gate has been left open, with pathetic performances from those picked to do so. What must the bowlers be thinking! All this talk about the return of past players, there is only one who merits his return, and that is Warner, at least he does play his shots, and is a fierce competitor. Young Pukowski will do the same. It is high time for some of the selectors to be dropped, most especially those that backed Burns. Hohns has long used his past used date, and Langer is not the most inspiring coach. Ricky Ponting should be coach, or Dizzy Gillespie, somebody with a desperate will to win attitude.
Ray Brown Australia (Team Member) Posts 6226 Dogs 8 / Races 5 01 Jan 2021 21:09
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You know Ron, our batsmen seem to have lost the art of playing well forward, I notice that young GREEN handled the bowling more comfortably than them all, he defended with straight bat, well forward and close to his pads all the time, unfortunately, he was out to a 'pull shot' that he played off the front foot when it was a back foot shot, but he is young, learning, and has the right technique defensively. That 'pain in the arse' Aussie opener from years ago, Bill Lawry had the right theory, he just didn't play enough variety of shots, even though in his repertoire, but he succeeded in England and India when others failed. His technique was simple, always play forward unless the ball is short enough to hook, pull or cut. Whilst he was painfully slow, in his 'famous' series on a notorious wet track, he batted through the side and was 105 not out at the end. With a partner like Warner, Australia needs another 'rock' like him that protects their wicket at all costs, if we could get those century opening stands going, the rest of them might find their form instead of having nervously, virtually open the innings.
Ronald George Hunter Australia (Verified User) Posts 4318 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Jan 2021 07:44
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Is this game coming down to the Davey factor! The top five batting lineup, is like a brittle peanut bar at the moment. All standing too flat footed, and prodding!
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Jan 2021 09:54
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Has there ever been any doubt its all about Davey ? hehe
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