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Kieth Anderson Australia (Verified User) Posts 409 Dogs 35 / Races 17 30 Dec 2018 05:42
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Hey Steve old mate,i really enjoyed the tipping comp this year.Why don't we have it again with a $50.00 fee .Then everyone will have a incentive to stay in it.And even say a monthly winner of $100.Also yearly donated prizes.Just a thought. I would certainally be in that.Whats your thoughts bud.Cheers Kieth
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 30 Dec 2018 06:37
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I'd love to do another one and I'd be happy with putting in $50. I reckon $50 would be enough for a monthly winner otherwise it would eat too much into the available money for end of year prizes.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 30 Dec 2018 06:59
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Putting in money will make a fun comp far too difficult. Who is going to set up and run the trust account ?
Steve runs his own business and I very much doubt he would have the time
few things I'd change. Those who registered but couldn't be bothered for what ever reason Putting in their tips , after 4 weeks just wipe them off the list less work
Points be awarded from first to last keep people who haven't picked a winner for a few weeks in the game
Say once a month give those that's dog runs last a couple of bonus points It's pretty clear that those who are frequent punters do better in the comp
Kieth Anderson Australia (Verified User) Posts 409 Dogs 35 / Races 17 30 Dec 2018 08:37
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Michael Barry wrote:
Putting in money will make a fun comp far too difficult. Who is going to set up and run the trust account ?
Steve runs his own business and I very much doubt he would have the time
few things I'd change. Those who registered but couldn't be bothered for what ever reason Putting in their tips , after 4 weeks just wipe them off the list less work
Points be awarded from first to last keep people who haven't picked a winner for a few weeks in the game
Say once a month give those that's dog runs last a couple of bonus points It's pretty clear that those who are frequent punters do better in the comp
Its a tipping comp.Why would you allocate points for last.Im sure steve would be happy to run it and put the money in a safe place.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 30 Dec 2018 11:19
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Kieth Anderson wrote:
Hey Steve old mate,i really enjoyed the tipping comp this year. Why don't we have it again with a $50.00 fee
I don't mind running another comp next year but I'd really like some help with prizes. I've done my bit there.
Regarding scoring that's not a drama as I've basically formulated a program that takes care of all calculations. It just takes around 90 minutes each week of "copy & pasting", everybody's tips & results...so that's all taken care of.
What does really annoy me is this year we started with 90 hopefuls & only around half crossed the finish-line. Why did 40 odd members give-up ??? Was it because they didn't think they could win, so they simply give up because they had nothing to lose. Maybe they just simply forgot to place their tips. Maybe because it cost nothing to join & it was simply easy to just walk away.
I think the $50 fee would encourage members to be more fair-dinkum & continue to turn up each week. It's just $1 a week when you think about it.
90 members x $50 = $4500 pool.
$100 to the highest scoring MONTHLY winner x 11 months = $1100.
$4500 - $1100 still leaves $3400 for the yearly prize.
50% of the pool goes to the winner - $1700
20% of the pool goes to 2nd - $680
10% of the pool goes to 3rd - $340
5% of the pool goes to 4th - $170
Which leaves $510 which you could have 10 prizes of $50.
I'm just thinking out loud.
Dean Townsend United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 2104 Dogs 19 / Races 0 30 Dec 2018 16:51
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The 510 left over could go till the highest paid tip.
Also steve any thoughts on using one meeting a month at shelbourne Dublin and maybe the big nights like Derby final and night of stars. Adds a little extra interest for the people outside of aus
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 31 Dec 2018 01:15
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steven martin wrote:
Kieth Anderson wrote:
Hey Steve old mate,i really enjoyed the tipping comp this year. Why don't we have it again with a $50.00 fee
I don't mind running another comp next year but I'd really like some help with prizes. I've done my bit there.
Regarding scoring that's not a drama as I've basically formulated a program that takes care of all calculations. It just takes around 90 minutes each week of "copy & pasting", everybody's tips & results...so that's all taken care of.
What does really annoy me is this year we started with 90 hopefuls & only around half crossed the finish-line. Why did 40 odd members give-up ??? Was it because they didn't think they could win, so they simply give up because they had nothing to lose. Maybe they just simply forgot to place their tips. Maybe because it cost nothing to join & it was simply easy to just walk away.
I think the $50 fee would encourage members to be more fair-dinkum & continue to turn up each week. It's just $1 a week when you think about it.
90 members x $50 = $4500 pool.
$100 to the highest scoring MONTHLY winner x 11 months = $1100.
$4500 - $1100 still leaves $3400 for the yearly prize.
50% of the pool goes to the winner - $1700
20% of the pool goes to 2nd - $680
10% of the pool goes to 3rd - $340
5% of the pool goes to 4th - $170
Which leaves $510 which you could have 10 prizes of $50.
I'm just thinking out loud.
Sounds good Steve but re your example, after you monthly prizes are taken out of the $$$ pool how about - 1st = $1500 2nd = $ 750 3rd = $ 400 4th = $ 200 5th to 15th = $50
The more prizes the better re participant retention.
Tony Gallagher Australia (Team Member) Posts 5912 Dogs 12952 / Races 40209 31 Dec 2018 01:18
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I'm in Steve.
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 31 Dec 2018 02:31
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Gordon Herbert wrote:
steven martin wrote:
Kieth Anderson wrote:
Hey Steve old mate,i really enjoyed the tipping comp this year. Why don't we have it again with a $50.00 fee
I don't mind running another comp next year but I'd really like some help with prizes. I've done my bit there.
Regarding scoring that's not a drama as I've basically formulated a program that takes care of all calculations. It just takes around 90 minutes each week of "copy & pasting", everybody's tips & results...so that's all taken care of.
What does really annoy me is this year we started with 90 hopefuls & only around half crossed the finish-line. Why did 40 odd members give-up ??? Was it because they didn't think they could win, so they simply give up because they had nothing to lose. Maybe they just simply forgot to place their tips. Maybe because it cost nothing to join & it was simply easy to just walk away.
I think the $50 fee would encourage members to be more fair-dinkum & continue to turn up each week. It's just $1 a week when you think about it.
90 members x $50 = $4500 pool.
$100 to the highest scoring MONTHLY winner x 11 months = $1100.
$4500 - $1100 still leaves $3400 for the yearly prize.
50% of the pool goes to the winner - $1700
20% of the pool goes to 2nd - $680
10% of the pool goes to 3rd - $340
5% of the pool goes to 4th - $170
Which leaves $510 which you could have 10 prizes of $50.
I'm just thinking out loud.
Sounds good Steve but re your example, after you monthly prizes are taken out of the $$$ pool how about - 1st = $1500 2nd = $ 750 3rd = $ 400 4th = $ 200 5th to 15th = $50
The more prizes the better re participant retention.
Sorry Steve just realised my idea only makes one extra prize...DOH!
Francis Walsh Ireland (Verified User) Posts 390 Dogs 0 / Races 0 31 Dec 2018 22:18
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Count me in, I didn't follow to the end this year as I was down near the bottom after around 3 months 😭
Martyn Empson Australia (Verified User) Posts 149 Dogs 0 / Races 3 01 Jan 2019 00:51
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Hi Steve i think it was good as it is many thanks to the sponsors whom i would guess like to see more people compete i wouldnt change too much keep it simple maybe do away with the forget rule why should any one get points when they forgot others remember to put tips in and get none if they pick wrong and the late rule stiff if your late already enough work for you without adding more complications like money
90 members next time with money ? i doubt it regards Marty
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 01 Jan 2019 10:17
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Dean townsend wrote:
shelbourne Dublin and maybe the big nights like Derby final and night of stars. Adds a little extra interest for the people outside of aus
Hi Dean & happy New Year m8.
Those races (Group races only) could be a possibly....but I'd need help from those in the know (like yourself), as I not up to date with races aboard.
At this stage, I don't know what's going with the comp this year as I won't be putting my hand up to get prizes.
Hopefully, somebody or maybe a group of members will handle that.
I'm more than happy to handle the tipping & scoring side of things...on a weekly basis.
Cheers Steve
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 01 Jan 2019 10:26
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Regarding the $50 idea, seems there are some that what to put their hand up...and some that are a bit sceptical.
Maybe we could make it optional where only those that want to "PAY-UP", PLAY for $$$$.....For example, if JOHNNY BROWN paid-up & run 8th in next years TIPPING COMP, and everybody else in front of him opted to NOT PAID the $50.....Johnny wins the pool.
Just thinking aloud.
Gordon Herbert Australia (Verified User) Posts 480 Dogs 45 / Races 73 01 Jan 2019 11:04
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steven martin wrote:
Regarding the $50 idea, seems there are some that what to put their hand up...and some that are a bit sceptical.
Maybe we could make it optional where only those that want to "PAY-UP", PLAY for $$$$.....For example, if JOHNNY BROWN paid-up & run 8th in next years TIPPING COMP, and everybody else in front of him opted to NOT PAID the $50.....Johnny wins the pool.
Just thinking aloud.
Sounds ok Steve...
Andrew Plasier Australia (Verified User) Posts 1279 Dogs 0 / Races 16 02 Jan 2019 23:06
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Sounds like a good idea,could get a prize if u finish in top 20 not a bad incentive,even when I have no hope i play for pride & just battle on to finish as high as possible.
Paul Ballantine Australia (Verified User) Posts 283 Dogs 10 / Races 8 03 Jan 2019 00:05
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Gordon Herbert wrote:
steven martin wrote:
Regarding the $50 idea, seems there are some that what to put their hand up...and some that are a bit sceptical.
Maybe we could make it optional where only those that want to "PAY-UP", PLAY for $$$$.....For example, if JOHNNY BROWN paid-up & run 8th in next years TIPPING COMP, and everybody else in front of him opted to NOT PAID the $50.....Johnny wins the pool.
Just thinking aloud.
Sounds ok Steve...
Great idea Ill be in for $
Scott Eaton Australia (Verified User) Posts 141 Dogs 10 / Races 14 03 Jan 2019 02:49
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I think most of us gamblers would be happy to put in $50. But I think there needs to be bonus points for tipping longer shot winners. Eg tip $5+ winner bonus 10 points, $10+ winner 30 points, $20+ winner 50 points and $30+ winner 100 points . This will give people that are behind still hope.
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 03 Jan 2019 07:56
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Happy to go along with whatever is decided
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 03 Jan 2019 09:12
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scott eaton wrote:
I think most of us gamblers would be happy to put in $50. But I think there needs to be bonus points for tipping longer shot winners. Eg tip $5+ winner bonus 10 points, $10+ winner 30 points, $20+ winner 50 points and $30+ winner 100 points . This will give people that are behind still hope.
I've been thinking about something similar Scott.
What about DOUBLE POINTS (To start with), at the member's discretion......x 10.
In other words, a member can nominate DOUBLE POINTS, on a single bet, 10 times a year, whenever they like. I'm pretty sure I could work that into my program over a six pack.
Edward (Ted) Howard Australia (Verified User) Posts 1195 Dogs 16 / Races 0 03 Jan 2019 09:25
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