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RACE DAY TRIALS
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 26 Mar 2021 21:59
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I think maiden dogs should have 1 or 2 official trials before they race . To many dogs are having a look when another dog looms up on there outside due to not trialing with other dogs ,it is that hard to fined dogs to trial with on trial days .MARK WILCOX
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 26 Mar 2021 22:19
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Yeah no doubt, I think PT's should still exist just without time cutoffs. Not all dogs are rockets but as long as they don't pull up or fight they should be passed to race
But I do believe bring in hair/blood testing and the number of dogs turning their heads will reduce dramatically in all grades
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 26 Mar 2021 23:07
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gillian wilcox wrote:
I think maiden dogs should have 1 or 2 official trials before they race . To many dogs are having a look when another dog looms up on there outside due to not trialing with other dogs ,it is that hard to fined dogs to trial with on trial days .MARK WILCOX
I totally agree with you Mark
I am seeing it too often
Instead of PT's before the first race, perhaps our authorities should look at how the horses do it and have official barrier trials on a set day on a rotational basis on non-race days in each region for Qualifying Maiden Trials, Clearance and Stewards trials
Have them on a separate on-line program so that participants can nominate for them and plan for them
It would IMHO increase the professionalism of the sport
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6018 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Mar 2021 00:41
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
gillian wilcox wrote:
I think maiden dogs should have 1 or 2 official trials before they race . To many dogs are having a look when another dog looms up on there outside due to not trialing with other dogs ,it is that hard to fined dogs to trial with on trial days .MARK WILCOX
I totally agree with you Mark
I am seeing it too often
Instead of PT's before the first race, perhaps our authorities should look at how the horses do it and have official barrier trials on a set day on a rotational basis on non-race days in each region for Qualifying Maiden Trials, Clearance and Stewards trials
Have them on a separate on-line program so that participants can nominate for them and plan for them
It would IMHO increase the professionalism of the sport
Agree, it's almost impossible to get a half/field or even another maiden dog to trial with on trial nights.
The Clubs don't mind as they now charge you a "Solo" trial fee! 10-15 years ago there would be 1/2 dozen maiden field trials, at both Lismore & Casino. Nowra would have qualifying trials on Monday night? once a month for maidens & 5th grade races. ( A very good initiative by the Club)
Clubs need to liaise with their participants to at least try and organise maiden field trials. Advertise that maidens field trials, 1st up on a regular basis, ie: every 2nd Wednesday. (Try something at least). It is becoming a BIG problem
Russ Forno Australia (Verified User) Posts 274 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Mar 2021 08:54
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What do you expect! This is NSW and dills and UTS students are dictating policy, track surface and design. What do us plebs know???
Carole Brown Australia (Verified User) Posts 32355 Dogs 185 / Races 2 27 Mar 2021 09:23
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Dogs getting no reward is no help, as the dogs know they are not going to get anything. That's why the dogs in NZ seem to race a lot more genuinely, as they get a reward at the end of the race.
Bruce Teague Australia (Verified User) Posts 2092 Dogs 0 / Races 0 27 Mar 2021 22:38
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Russ Forno wrote:
What do you expect! This is NSW and dills and UTS students are dictating policy, track surface and design. What do us plebs know???
Russ,
I can't argue with some of your descriptors but I must say that "UTS students" is way out of line. They are highly qualified people - quite a lot of their stuff is in worldwide publications and is peer reviewed - but unfortunately not in greyhound practice.
Todays problems are multifold .......
1. We don't know who said or did what as GRNSW releases are waffly and anonymous. 2. Many items in UTS reports tend to be recommendations for more work or experiments - they are not conclusions. 3. Matters put forward by UTS or any other group should be treated as ingredients for the cake and then assessed by people like GRNSW. It's the authority that is responsible for the end decision. 4. I may have missed something but I am not aware that UTS has been involved in "track surface" subjects. That's a whole different ball game and it is also one area where GRNSW does have some expertise (whether implemented or not).
You might also ask why it took some pressure from UTS for GRNSW to generate some action on the appalling lack of straight tracks in NSW. GBOTA might also be lax there.
However, I am mystified as to why PTs disappeared and there is an apparent lack of decent trialling facilities. That's unacceptable.
Tom Rees Australia (Verified User) Posts 75 Dogs 1 / Races 0 29 Mar 2021 04:59
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Mark 100% agree, hold trial days / nights, they wouldnt need to be televised just make it compulsory that young pups need 2-3 trials before nomming first. Trials should be a field of more than 3-4. Field trials these days are non- existent Ill take a trailer full of pups down to the track and no one will trial against you.
Paul Ballantine Australia (Verified User) Posts 284 Dogs 10 / Races 8 30 Mar 2021 03:39
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When field trialing over the 300 for maidens you have to get lucky not to find a dog that looks left or right . Or plays most of the way around . I
Mark Wilcox Australia (Verified User) Posts 264 Dogs 1 / Races 0 30 Mar 2021 06:34
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PAUL where does that happen i am flat out seeing any field trials anywhere.Mark wilcox.
Paul Ballantine Australia (Verified User) Posts 284 Dogs 10 / Races 8 30 Mar 2021 07:48
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gillian wilcox wrote:
PAUL where does that happen i am flat out seeing any field trials anywhere.Mark wilcox. [/quote
At Richmond mark over the 330 they have two or more every Sunday and wed that is maidens and there is always performed field trials
Ray Webster Australia (Verified User) Posts 380 Dogs 72 / Races 27 30 Mar 2021 20:49
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Paul, Richmond is the only venue that I know of to offer field trials. However, Ive never been able to find another trainer that is willing to go in a field. Very frustrating when youre trying to educate young dogs.
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