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Hayden Gilders
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Can anyone state these organisations purpose, value and means of funding,



Ian Bradshaw
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Greyhound Clubs Victoria
The Victorian Greyhound Racing Clubs Association Inc. (VGRCA) was formed in 2017 as a representative body for the 13 Victorian greyhound racing clubs.

The association has a registered trading name of Greyhound Clubs Victoria (GCV) and has been formed as an incorporated body within Victoria. It operates in accordance with its rules and will be represented in strategic discussions by its executive committee and its executive officer. All Victorian clubs are members of the association, 2 delegates represent each club. The association will form part of a tri-party environment in the Victorian greyhound racing industry, which includes participants, regulators, and the clubs.

The primary objective of GCV is to encourage and promote the greyhound industry.
Greyhound Clubs Victoria aims to achieve this by:

representing all clubs in strategic and operational matters that affect the Victorian greyhound racing industry
establishing a clear role for the clubs within the regulatory and political environment of the Victorian greyhound racing industry
assisting the industry in transitioning towards a structured, professional, and collective body of participants who are achieving industry sustainability.
GCV is a great opportunity to provide collective representation on behalf of greyhound clubs and their members with key stakeholders within the industry.

If participants are the lifeblood of the greyhound racing industry, then greyhound clubs are the communities of greyhound racing in Victoria. The strength of GCV lies with clubs and their membership; participants are encouraged to join their local greyhound club.

11,000 participants distributed amongst 13 clubs makes for a powerful voice.

Speak to your local club about membership opportunities.

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Greyhound Clubs Australia (GCA) is an incorporated association representing all greyhound race clubs throughout Australia.

Two delegates nominated by each state comprise the GCA Committee with Les Bein and Greg Miller, President and Vice President respectively. David Simonette is the associations Executive Officer, supported by Brenton Scott (Group Race Co-ordinator), Neil Brown (Media and Publicity Officer) and Michael Seaton (Treasurer).

GCAs aim is to provide a well-reasoned and united voice on behalf of clubs, both city and country, big or small, to media, controlling authorities and government on issues of importance. We want to influence chief decision makers in areas such as animal welfare, reform, track design and safety, marketing and communication, issues of the day, as well as maintaining ownership of the GCA Group Racing Calendar and the conduct of The National Championships.

In simple terms, GCAs ambition is to make a positive difference towards the betterment of greyhound racing in everything we do.


Hayden Gilders
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25 Sep 2021 04:48


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Thanks Ian there seems to be a fair amount of duplication of purpose and as a consequence a duplication of funding. It seems also that some of the executive positions are held by people who werent up to the mark on grv board



Ian Bradshaw
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25 Sep 2021 05:15


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Hayden,

For Victorians, let's throw in another 3 organizations, making it a total of 5 organizations, designed to help make life more comfortable for participants in the greyhound industry.

I hope they are not all tripping over each other in their quest for excellence.

Who said too many cooks spoil the broth?

That's definitely COOKS, not C???KS

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Strategic Plan

In 2019 the GA Board in consultation with participants and administrators across Australia and New Zealand created the 2020 2022 Strategy Plan.

Titled Fresh Thinking, New Horizons the strategic plan is our blueprint to support he industry in continuing our new established and clear path of continual improvement.

The GA Strategic Plan broadly focuses on 5 objectives for our industry:

Build Community Confidence
Drive National Uniformity
Lead Sustainable Growth
Facilitate Innovation and Best Practice
Enhance Organisation Capability
GA is making good progress on this plan and the detail or how we intend to delivery against those objectives can be found here

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GOTBA Victoria is a not-for-profit incorporated association, run by a Committee of volunteers, whose focus is the constant improvement of the sport for members and their greyhounds. The Committee works with Greyhound Racing Victoria, Greyhounds Australasia, various Government Departments and other stakeholders to improve conditions and outcomes, with the welfare of greyhounds the highest

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GRV 2019-24 Strategic Plan Executive summary

GRV has worked with the industry to drive significant change. The challenge for us all is to now build on these achievements while increasing market share and revenue growth as well as investing more in the promotion of the sport while continuing to deliver strong welfare and integrity outcomes.

The environment in which we interact is constantly evolving with new digitally based products and services so GRV needs to become even more agile, connected and engaged with participants, fans and the community.

This Strategic Plan sets out a new path forward to meet these challenges and secure the long-term future of Victorian greyhound racing as a vibrant, ethical and financially sustainable sport that delivers a great wagering experience and most importantly, increased returns to our participants so that they can continue to work in our sport for many years to come, doing what they love caring for their dogs.

Peita Duncan, GRV Chair



Bruce Teague
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Hayden,

I see you support both the Doggies and the Bombers so you are obviously an each way bettor. Intriguingly, that is pretty much the way greyhound racing is run or intended to be run. The same applies to the Ballarat grandstand which boasts enough inside room to operate an AFL match. Is it ever used?

Anyway, Ian has offered a pretty good summary of what all those Vic organisations are supposed to do. Whether any of them succeed is in the eye of the beholder. My view is that there are probably too many and their value is arguable.

Certainly, VGOBTA has just had success in its battle with GRV over prize money, which is great. As for GCA, my understanding is that it harmonises dates for Group events but does little else. Thats a vital job but should it be in the hands of what are just a collection of private clubs rather than in the care of an independent national organisation?

The short answer to the big question is that greyhound racing is controlled by governments six states and two territories which have a terrible record of running businesses. Regardless of the knowledge and expertise of state racing authorities it is the government which tells them what to do. The recent Victorian example of rules being set by the Department of Pussy Cats and Butterflies is a classic illustration. So is the attention to euthanasia where politicians necessarily had to pay heed to screams from the public. And the horrible Baird-ban effort in NSW hardly bears thinking about.

A smaller but perhaps more critical example is in the ACT where a minority Greens group insisted on the Labor government shutting down greyhound racing or else they would lose Green support. (It also used the advice of an allegedly independent consultant who had strong Green credentials as did McHughs offsider in the NSW Commission). Next on the Greens list are thoroughbred racing, followed by pigeon racing (is Bill Lawry aware of this?). And in WA and Tasmania racing is quite specifically run by what are effectively government departments.

Yet, even in NSW, where the local GOTBA has strong and formal credentials in state management areas, its membership is confined to about one third of local trainers. Thats not convincing.

GA is proving a waste of space as (1) it gets a lot of things wrong and (2) it has voted itself no power over what is termed commercial matters. Perhaps its biggest blue was writing a letter which sponsored most of the nasty or erroneous conclusions of the McHugh Commission aided and abetted by the failure of the interim boss of GRNSW (on secondment from the Department) to push hard for fairer treatment of the industry.

As noted, there are a lot of cooks stirring the pot. And, yes, they all cost money and lower efficiency to one degree or another.

There is only one solution that could really work: a National Racing Commission is needed to control all major activities, much as the country could be run more effectively with a National Parliament assisted by local regional Councils. The states are superfluous (but try and get rid of them!).

PS: Leonard Cohen and I were born in the same year but I have outlasted him. Possibly the tough Montreal winters made the difference. The skiing at Mt Tremblant is also terrible - blue ice.



Hayden Gilders
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From an observors perspective it would appear that they are all funded to a greater or lessor extent by greyhound industry money that they cannot take credit for earning.

Recent recruitement "strategies" to executive positions of clubs australia and clubs victoria should be justified to the participants as should the purchase of a number of slots in the pheonix using the participants funds one again

bruce - leonard cohen died after a fall and a blood coagulation disorder caused by lukemia and his net worth at death was $40m probably not enough to fund the above hangers on for a year

Dance us to the end of love


Robert Britton
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Hayden, you are 100% right. These groups are funded by us - the participants that generate industry income.
GA have no power without GRV or GRNSW approval.
GCV are just another arm of GRV with conditions attached, run by invisible people most greyhound participant has ever met.
GA, well they organising the National calendar (great) and annual State regulators / administrators piss up. (Tell me one Nationals where participants in general, have been invited just for a sausage sizzle).
The elephant in the room is the most important issue facing our sport - the now daily media attacks from anti greyhound racing activists. What are these well funded organisation doing to defend our industry.
I'm still waiting, waiting, waiting, but to date -ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.


Mark Staines
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Greyhounds Australasia jumped on the Anti Train long ago and are yet to disembark !!!!



Geoff Miles
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Bruce you are correct that our State regulators are controlled by Government and not accountable to key stakeholders- notably participants and clubs, as Board members are appointed by the Minister most typically favourite people to whichever government is in power. Certainly in Victoria, there is zero accountability for organisation performance and meeting the priority needs of participants as the Board only has to report to the Minister and cannot be voted out. There is no AGM and no requirement for GRV to respond to issues, answer questions or even reply to correspondence. Important issues like Prizemoney, track safety, contaminants are kicked down the road far too often. GA is irrelevant to any key issues affecting our sport nationally. Structural change is the only way to good governance and growth - we still have a governance model established under the Racing Act of 1958 in Victoria giving us a Statutory Body that will continue to fail participants and the sport irrespective of who sits in the chairs at the top. There is extraordinary inefficiency and waste of the exploding wagering revenue that could otherwise be properly applied to improved participant returns and track upgrades. Companies in Australia are accountable to shareholders for their performance and Boards need to listen to their concerns and deliver or they are replaced. Going forward do we want to retain a government bureaucracy answerable to one person - the Minister - or move into the 21st century with a Corporate structure that delivers transparency, efficiency, accountability and responds to participant concerns and needs. Our participants, our dogs and our sport deserve better.



Kevin Wright
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Robert Britton wrote:

Hayden, you are 100% right. These groups are funded by us - the participants that generate industry income.
GA have no power without GRV or GRNSW approval.
GCV are just another arm of GRV with conditions attached, run by invisible people most greyhound participant has ever met.
GA, well they organising the National calendar (great) and annual State regulators / administrators piss up. (Tell me one Nationals where participants in general, have been invited just for a sausage sizzle).
The elephant in the room is the most important issue facing our sport - the now daily media attacks from anti greyhound racing activists. What are these well funded organisation doing to defend our industry.
I'm still waiting, waiting, waiting, but to date -ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Rob as you know
The GRV set the Standard for all of Australian Racing..
The GRV need to be
Setting the tone at the top..
Establishing standards of conduct..
Evaluating adherence to standards of conduct..
Processes must be in place to evaluate the performance of individuals and teams against the GRV expected standards of conduct..
Address deviations in a timely manner..
Deviations of the GRVs expected standards of conduct are identified and remedied in a timely and consistent manner..



Jason Caley
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Bruce Teague wrote:

PS: Leonard Cohen and I were born in the same year but I have outlasted him. Possibly the tough Montreal winters made the difference. The skiing at Mt Tremblant is also terrible - blue ice.

You ever make it back to Quebec way for ski fun - try here instead
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Better skiing but Mont Tremblant is more fun if you like girls and alcohol after ski time. Just sayin'

Re: Cohen - Heavier smoker maybe? - At any rate can't ever overlook Everybody Knows. Love that tune. Heaps cred to The Future. Another dystopian masterpiece of a tone.

Happy 87th Bruce no matter when it was or still this year to come!

I now return this forum to its regular scheduled programming thread lol


Bruce Teague
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Thanks Jason, but the bird has flown long ago.

Anyway, why would you fly over all that nice fluffy stuff to get to the East?



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