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Jakota Rohde Australia (Verified User) Posts 163 Dogs 1 / Races 0 27 Jan 2021 10:27
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Hey guys, was wondering if anyone had any information on superior panama and how his pups are going in australia. Any great reports etc! If America is anything to go by, he is going to be something special here!
Vincent J Lund United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 600 Dogs 23 / Races 0 28 Jan 2021 10:22
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Jakota Rohde wrote:
Hey guys, was wondering if anyone had any information on superior panama and how his pups are going in australia. Any great reports etc! If America is anything to go by, he is going to be something special here!
https:/ CLICK HERE Hopefully this link may work . For what its Worth I have been told first hand by a very highly respected Greyhound Vet that Superior Panama has a rock solid temperament. Was there a reason why his better performed brother was sent to Ireland and Panama kept at home ? I didnt ask but it Appears to have paid off . Interestingly we now have available 4 Sons of KC And All in this part of the World 3 in the flesh and Panama Frozen.
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 09 Mar 2021 10:01
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Jakota Rohde wrote:
Hey guys, was wondering if anyone had any information on superior panama and how his pups are going in australia. Any great reports etc! If America is anything to go by, he is going to be something special here!
I wouldn't hesitate using him he has some seriously fast pups about to hit the Track !!!
Howard Moshinsky USA (Verified User) Posts 886 Dogs 3 / Races 0 11 Mar 2021 01:28
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he was bred to the cream of the crop of multi producing dams not a knock but i would leap at sh avatar vials sorry just an opinion
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 11 Mar 2021 04:18
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That's another reason to use SP imo !
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 12 Mar 2021 07:54
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Thats right Mark , I agree. Where can you buy straws. Any available still in AUS. Cheers
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 12 Mar 2021 08:01
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Geoff Collins had his first shipment i was told Ned Macdonald has another shipment !
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 12 Mar 2021 19:03
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Thanks. Cheers
Simon Milgate Australia (Verified User) Posts 2043 Dogs 23 / Races 0 05 Jun 2021 00:47
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Just an observation but I wonder what criteria on a sire selection wouldn't cut it for PAW to use this bloke. Each to there own, but seems to he going well in the USA.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 05 Jun 2021 01:50
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Simon Milgate wrote:
Just an observation but I wonder what criteria on a sire selection wouldn't cut it for PAW to use this bloke. Each to there own, but seems to he going well in the USA.
Unless the $5500 is a stumbling block, to a lot of people any outcross is just to freshen up the bloodlines and provided the sire has 4 legs it's as good a chance as any of producing
Wheelers have used Jiminy Reno, Kinda Cruel Red and RT's Bo Jangles recently. Realistically all 3 were probably faster racers than Superior Panama, but as we all know that doesn't mean they'll produce at stud
Jakota Rohde Australia (Verified User) Posts 163 Dogs 1 / Races 0 06 Jun 2021 00:13
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As I have mentioned to you before though Matt, Supeiror Panamas bloodline is undoubtedly, one of the strongest put together bloodlines you will see in greyhound racing across the world. There are so many hall of fame dogs in his bloodline. With his damsire tracing back to the famous representation damline, Kc and all, well we all know what he has achieved, but Panamas damline has thrown open class and all American dogs for generations.
There is no doubting what he has managed to achieve in such a short time in America either, when comparing to the other outcross sires we have available in australia here. Not knocking any of the other outcross sires we have here either, because sires like Sh Avatar and Kinloch Brae, have been phenomenal here also. But I think Panamas price is justified. He is throwing strength, size, chase and Stamina, 4 big ticks in selecting the correct outcross sire for a bitch.
Wade Gallagher Australia (Verified User) Posts 372 Dogs 117 / Races 0 06 Jun 2021 03:02
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Jakota Rohde wrote:
As I have mentioned to you before though Matt, Supeiror Panamas bloodline is undoubtedly, one of the strongest put together bloodlines you will see in greyhound racing across the world. There are so many hall of fame dogs in his bloodline. With his damsire tracing back to the famous representation damline, Kc and all, well we all know what he has achieved, but Panamas damline has thrown open class and all American dogs for generations.
There is no doubting what he has managed to achieve in such a short time in America either, when comparing to the other outcross sires we have available in australia here. Not knocking any of the other outcross sires we have here either, because sires like Sh Avatar and Kinloch Brae, have been phenomenal here also. But I think Panamas price is justified. He is throwing strength, size, chase and Stamina, 4 big ticks in selecting the correct outcross sire for a bitch.
Superior Panama is certainly extremely well bred and his damline has indeed produced many high class performers for decades. But he is not from the Representation damline.
Jakota Rohde Australia (Verified User) Posts 163 Dogs 1 / Races 0 06 Jun 2021 03:22
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No he isnt. His damsire TNT Star Wars is however. I was just mentioning the great bloodlines he actually carries
Jakota Rohde Australia (Verified User) Posts 163 Dogs 1 / Races 0 06 Jun 2021 04:00
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In fact it was mentioned in my original comment it was in fact his damsire, tnt Star Wars, whos damline traces back to the representation damline
Mick Whyte Australia (Verified User) Posts 1109 Dogs 23 / Races 3 06 Jun 2021 10:01
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Wade Gallagher wrote:
Jakota Rohde wrote:
As I have mentioned to you before though Matt, Supeiror Panamas bloodline is undoubtedly, one of the strongest put together bloodlines you will see in greyhound racing across the world. There are so many hall of fame dogs in his bloodline. With his damsire tracing back to the famous representation damline, Kc and all, well we all know what he has achieved, but Panamas damline has thrown open class and all American dogs for generations.
There is no doubting what he has managed to achieve in such a short time in America either, when comparing to the other outcross sires we have available in australia here. Not knocking any of the other outcross sires we have here either, because sires like Sh Avatar and Kinloch Brae, have been phenomenal here also. But I think Panamas price is justified. He is throwing strength, size, chase and Stamina, 4 big ticks in selecting the correct outcross sire for a bitch.
Superior Panama is certainly extremely well bred and his damline has indeed produced many high class performers for decades. But he is not from the Representation damline.
His dam line is the same as Oswald Cobblepot who was the sire of the great Kiowa Sweet Trey.
Dean Matterson Australia (Verified User) Posts 1474 Dogs 11 / Races 11 06 Jun 2021 10:17
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His damline is also responsible for the great Ballyregan Bob. https:/ CLICK HERE
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19486 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 06 Jun 2021 10:41
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dean matterson wrote:
His damline is also responsible for the great Ballyregan Bob. https:/ CLICK HERE
Panama 4th dam Just Lily was a full sister to him
Peter Stanford Australia (Verified User) Posts 123 Dogs 4 / Races 0 07 Jun 2021 19:58
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My bitch, Princess Kiwi (Barcia Bale X Pearls Legacy) just whelped 7 beautiful black pups to him. Very excited about the prospect of this litter. I think he will be a top sire in the future. He is producing top quality pups already from limited bitches.
Howard Moshinsky USA (Verified User) Posts 886 Dogs 3 / Races 0 08 Jun 2021 00:05
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bottom line the damline goes back to MILLIES MAY the damline ofcenturies
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 08 Jun 2021 18:44
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
dean matterson wrote:
His damline is also responsible for the great Ballyregan Bob. https:/ CLICK HERE
Panama 4th dam Just Lily was a full sister to him
Same damline as the old faithful L.A I don't want mention her name as it will haunt people
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