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Allen Fitzsimmons Australia (Verified User) Posts 91 Dogs 8 / Races 0 29 Apr 2007 23:17
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Hi Jack and all Have not worked the click here thing out yet but have a couple here that have just been broken in that are going alright. they are a 3x3 of Gun Law Osti and Sobbing Sal. If You want to look at the pedigree Hallucinate x Temptation Sal. Will see if it works shortly Cheers Allen
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2140 / Races 9672 30 Apr 2007 05:43
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Have you all noticed that in 95% of the pedigrees of these great champions you have shown with 3x3 inbreeding that it was in a Sires Sex balance i.e. through a son in one half of the pedigree and a daughter in the other half.
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 30 Apr 2007 05:57
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yes david good observation ,and could be a hell of a tip to breed that champ.
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2140 / Races 9672 30 Apr 2007 06:19
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champs with a sires sex balance include
worth doing brett lee national lass flying amy highly blessed i'm slippy (he had FOUR) token prince black top zoom top new tears amerigo man (and his brothers)
it goes on and on
Jack Ogilvie Australia (Verified User) Posts 15483 Dogs 0 / Races 1 30 Apr 2007 06:28
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This is now called the ogilvie/Brasch theory.LOL.who needs to know about green and black balls .LOL
Leslie Brown Ireland
Posts 330 Dogs 0 / Races 0 30 Apr 2007 07:04
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what are youre thaughts on this although not 3X3 theres 4x4 5x5 6x6 would it have a chance CLICK HERE
Adam Jones Australia (Verified User) Posts 2275 Dogs 0 / Races 1 30 Apr 2007 09:02
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I'm hopeing to add this one to the list shortly, 17 months old and looks to be atleast a couple with more then their share of abilty CLICK HERE thinking of biting in the bullet again this year and doing thi CLICK HERE this one wasn't a bad dog, i'd like to own hi CLICK HERE
Ray Mc Guinness Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2795 Dogs 4 / Races 7 30 Apr 2007 09:21
Darren McKenzie Australia (Verified User) Posts 1823 Dogs 96 / Races 105 30 Apr 2007 12:01
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But, the odds of this happening via 'male' balance always heavily outways the chances of it coming thru female balance................a bitch produces at most 75 offsprings...........a male has a few more chances than that................many thousands upon thousands down a lineage...............even within 1x generation father to son.
I don't think that's a fair call................bit harsh on the girls, imho.
Darren
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 6026 Dogs 28 / Races 32 30 Apr 2007 12:23
We have our own dog at home which we intend to use across our bitches. I think he'd go well with the bitch puppy i got out of my recent litter. should throw a nice brood or 2!!!
CLICK HERE i was also thinking along this line.. CLICK HERE wwith either Collide or Collision.
Darren McKenzie Australia (Verified User) Posts 1823 Dogs 96 / Races 105 30 Apr 2007 20:30
My mate Dan Biddle bred this bloke - can't forget him (lol)
Darren
David Brasch Australia (Team Member) Posts 844 Dogs 2140 / Races 9672 30 Apr 2007 21:08
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A few of the recent Irish/UK posts have been more Rasmussen Factor matings (in-breeding to a female) than a Sires Sex Balance as per the 3x3 initial thread of this post.
Very interesting to note. I was reading a thoroughbred article recently (can't remember where) but it was about the success of the double-up of the legendary Northern Dancer in pedigrees throughout the world. HOWEVER, of all the Group and Listed winners with a double-up of Northern Dancer, (to the time of writing) only ONE had come through two daughters of Northern Dancer. All the rest, and there was a huge number, doubled Northern Dancer through sons, or a son and a daughter. Only one (and I think it was in some South American country) came through two daughters of ND. This may have changed since that article was written, but I found it very interesting.
Champion mare Makybe Dive has a double-up of Northern Dancer and three crosses of Northern Dancer's dam Natalma, and has been mated to a Northern Dancer line sire in Galileo. Looks more like a greyhound pedigree. I've often wondered why horse breeders don't utilise the patterns already proven among greyhound breeders. (They don't know we exist.) Consider that a horse generation can be six, 10, 15 years ... and a greyhound generation can be as short as two or three years, it shows greyhound pedigrees and the crosses etc that they prove (ie the 3x3 crosses we are all talking about here) are so far ahead of horse pedigrees.
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
