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Jamie Quinlivian
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An unvaccinated greyhound trainer living in Warrnambool is prohibited from trialling a greyhound, racing a greyhound, catching a greyhound, kenneling a greyhound, handling a greyhound or even bringing a greyhound to the track to allow a vaccinated person to do any of these tasks on behalf of the unvaccinated trainer.
This applies to all Victorian tracks.

However, the unvaccinated trainer may arrange to have a vaccinated, registered participant come to their property and collect the greyhound, to take to the track to trial or race. Then return the greyhound to the unvaccinated trainers property after the trial/race.

In this instance, it would work like this -

The vaccinated, registered participant would arrive at the unvaccinated trainers property, collect the greyhound, ID card, lead, muzzle, kennel mat, towel, etc. and head off to the track.

The unvaccinated trainer would then arrive at the track a bit later, enter the GRV function rooms, chat to a few punters, put a few bets on, have a meal and a sherbet or two, then watch his greyhound being paraded out and boxed. All these social activities can be done without the need to be vaccinated, wear a mask, check-in with a QR code or social distance.
Then the greyhound wins the race so the unvaccinated trainer gets a winning photo with the greyhound and gives him a cuddle and a 'good boy' and hands him back to the vaccinated, registered participant.

Then the unvaccinated trainer goes home and waits for the vaccinated, registered participant to arrive with the greyhound.

All this takes place because of the 'science' which dictates the 'health advice' which dictates the 'emergency health orders' which are put in place to 'keep us safe' because 'we are all in this together'

And they want me to 'trust the science?'

Then of course, 8 days later the unvaccinated trainer takes his dog to Mount Gambier where he is allowed to kennel the greyhound, handle the greyhound, box the greyhound and wash the greyhound down after he wins again because he's a good boy.

Clearly the 'science' that dictates the 'health advice' in South Australia is different than the 'science' in Victoria.

By the way, I'm not having a crack at GRV. I'm having a crack at stupidity in general.




Russ Forno
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13 May 2022 10:23


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Mate, with respect, vaccinations WORK, i used to be a bit of a rebel, but with age realised rules are rules. ( not always perfect) Went to school in 50's, 60's with polio victims, have to wear a seat belt, had to hand in my guns ( game shooter & gun collector) , don't like the type of migrant diversifying the life i was used to, don't like trans-gender blokes playing against women, don't like the dill of a lefty Prime Minister we are about to elect, don't like cabbage, believe in climate change ( it's called winter, spring, summer autumn) , don't like fat ankled schoolteachers (uni results dictated teaching due to pass marks) brain washing young minds. But life in Australia is still pretty good. Cheers mate. ( my mother in her nineties, fully vaxxed, currently getting over Covid , worse symptom, sore throat).



Jamie Quinlivian
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This is not an anti-vax thread, it's an anti-beaurocratic stupidity thread.

An unvaccinated person can participate in every part of society now in Victoria, but they are prohibited from working.

So I can go to the dogs on Friday night, to the footy on Saturday and to the pub on Sunday. But I cannot go to work on Monday.
But last year I could go to work but I couldn't go to the dogs, the footy or the pub.
Same science, same health advice

There is not a single, rational thinking person on earth who thinks this is helping to keep us safe.

It's simply a punishment.
This vaccine is so safe and effective that we will destroy your life until you take it.




Michael Worth
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13 May 2022 20:19


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I agree 100% Jamie. I am vaccinated because I had too due to work. Im sure we have all scene the different scenarios during this pandemic. I know people who have not been vaxxed and have had Covid with very mild symptoms. I know people who have been fully vaxxed with booster who contracted Covid and become very Ill. Theres been fully vaxxed people that have died. So many variations. Now that we have reached the supposedly magic number of vaccinations I cant understand why these rules exist. One would think that you would not be a risk to anyone but yourself if all the other trainers have had the magic vaccine. Unfortunately I had to attend a farewell function for one of my work mates yesterday who stands by his belief as well. And I admire him for this. What a sad day. I cant work with him but can have a farewell lunch with him. Complete Joke. Cheers


Mark Staines
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14 May 2022 01:00


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A very high profile trainer in N.S.W. got a letter from his GP stating he was not suitable for vaccinations and this trainer is allowed to handle his Dogs at race meetings !


Mark Donohue
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14 May 2022 01:43


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Well written Jamie.

We might not ever know if the vaccinations work because the evidence is not available for the experimental jabs (up to four jabs now in eight to nine months).

In terms of stupidity, if GRV is accepting of this advice from the State Govt and is not pushing back because of the lunacy in which you have described, well then they are sheep.

Remember the farmer(s) on the border who couldn't cross to feed his / their livestock because of the draconian rules when the borders were closed. It took ages for exemptions to be given. Look now? Abracadabra.




Jamie Quinlivian
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14 May 2022 01:54


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NSW has different 'science' again.
This science is so good and reliable, until you go over a state border, then it changes completely.

If it wasn't for NSW allowing my wife and I to work up there, we would have lost our house by now.
We asked 2 GPs for exemptions in Vic and both said they were not allowed to give them.

First they said the vaccine prevents getting covid.
Then they said you can still get covid, but you wouldn't pass it on.
Then they said you can still pass it on but your symptoms would be less severe.
Then they said your symptoms would be just as severe, but you wouldn't die.
Now they say you will still die but the vaccines are safe and effective and you just need to trust the science.

Science has become the world biggest religious cult.
It's followers do not even ask questions and they frown upon those who do.
How great is thy faith.


Mark Staines
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14 May 2022 03:39


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Maybe thy faith stems from the use of Vaccines that saved millions of lives such as Polio and Small Pox / Chicken Pox and Spanish Flu and Tuberculosis !



Jamie Quinlivian
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Mark Staines wrote:

Maybe thy faith stems from the use of Vaccines that saved millions of lives such as Polio and Small Pox / Chicken Pox and Spanish Flu and Tuberculosis !

Yes they most certainly did, as did the typhoid vaccine that saved my life when I caught typhoid.
Three things I'm sure you know Mark.

1. Polio, Smallpox, Chicken Pox, Spanish Flu and Tuberculosis all had very high death rates. Covid-19 does not.
2. All of those vaccines were developed after years of trials. The covid vaccines were not.
3. All of those vaccines were made by capturing the virus/disease, killing it, and injecting a small part of the killed virus. The covid vaccines are a different beast altogether.

Oh, and a fourth. Back then no Government outlawed the use of other medicines. They have with covid.




Mark Staines
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Anti Virals are permitted !


Hayden Gilders
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I note that none of the people that have died of Covid are whinging about the inconvenience




Jamie Quinlivian
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Okay so I can take anti-virals and get my job back can I?
Nope. I have to be double jabbed.
This is my punishment for looking after my own health, I get sacked.
And the adherents to the science cult think that is warranted.

I have never heard any Chief Health Officer or Minister for Health, urging the public to get healthy.
"Hey everyone, there's a really bad flu coming. Maybe you should stop eating junk food and sugar for a few months and take a heap of vitaminC and boost that immune system of yours"

No we cant say that because there's no money in vitaminC.





Jamie Quinlivian
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Hayden Gilders wrote:

I note that none of the people that have died of Covid are whinging about the inconvenience

No and my 35 year old neighbour who died from the vaccine doesn't get the opportunity to whinge either.


Hayden Gilders
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95% of the population have been and are still getting jabbed to protect themselves and either intentionally or unintentionally proctect the other 5% (heard immunity) . I wonder why


Hayden Gilders
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Jamie Quinlivian wrote:

Hayden Gilders wrote:

I note that none of the people that have died of Covid are whinging about the inconvenience

No and my 35 year old neighbour who died from the vaccine doesn't get the opportunity to whinge either.


Missed it by that much



Jamie Quinlivian
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Hayden Gilders wrote:

95% of the population have been and are still getting jabbed to protect themselves and either intentionally or unintentionally proctect the other 5% (heard immunity) . I wonder why

Are you seriously suggesting that every one of the 95% chose to receive the vaccine without any threat or coercion?

I actually don't know many people who willingly chose to be vaccinated. But I do know a heap of people who took the vaccine to keep their job, or to be allowed to travel. A friend of my wife took the jab so that she could go back to the beauty salon!
And that decision is totally up to them, just as my decision is totally up to me.
Do you really believe that you being vaccinated protects me?
That goes against the very science that you trust in. It does not work that way. Even the CHO's will tell you that.

And yes, I have had covid and yes I caught it from a vaccinated person and no I didn't get sick.


Mark Staines
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1 million covid deaths in the USA !
Imagine how many more would have died without the brilliant efforts of Pfizer and Moderna ?



Jamie Quinlivian
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Yes Pfizer and Moderna, the gods of the religious cult of science.
They cause you to 'imagine' huge numbers of deaths so you get to put your own number on it.
I 'imagine' how many deaths would be avoided by not eating junk food and sugar all day, thus destroying ones natural immune defences.

We can go back and forth with statistics all day and night.
The science cult people only look at the total deaths, whereas others look into that statistic a bit more to see who is dying, what age group, and how many have had covid without dying.

But I do not wish to engage with people who make broad, religious cult statements.

I started this thread to point out the stupidity. Whether you are vaxxed or not, I couldn't care less.
A person can attend a greyhound meeting all night being unvaxxed, unmasked and no social distancing. All the things that we were told for 2 years were keeping us safe.
But that person cannot race his dog. And that rule is in place to keep us safe.

The religious cult of science.
How great is thy faith.



Jamie Quinlivian
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14 May 2022 23:08


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95% double jabbed.
57% boosted.
And now the highest per capita infection rate in the world.

Thanx Pfizer.
Thanx Moderna.
Great work.

EXTERNAL LINK


Mark Staines
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I wonder how many millions have died in China ? There vaccines are far more less effective than Pfizer and Moderna !
You are spot on Jamie the best vaccine of all is religion let's pray ROFLMAO !



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