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Eddie Farrell
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does anybody know where i can get some in ireland?


Carole Brown
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Hi Eddie, A few Irish people are using something called BVP Replenolyte from stores that sell to farmers. Best wishes, Carole.



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Carole Brown
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Eddie, A couple of people in the UK and America have given me some web site addresses for another product, which is used a lot in America for working dogs. If you would like to email me, I can find them and give them to you later. They would also be good if you can obtain them. The person in the Uk who used it found it very good. Best wishes, Carole.


Diarmuid Dooge
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BVP Replenolyte on reconstitution with water has the following ion concentrations
Sodium 114mmol/L
Potassium 10 mmol/L
Chloride 84 mmol/l
Dextrose 126 mmol/L
Magnesium 1.1 mmol/L
Calcium 1.7 mmol/L
Acetate 46 mmol/L

I would be interested as to what sports physiologists and our Australian colleagues would think of the above Sodium to Potassium ratio in a dehydrated greyhound?


Holger von Boehn
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15 Feb 2008 12:35


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Edddie,
why are you asking without Sodium CITRATE?

I think that the dogs need Sodium and it should be in a electrolyte.
The usual is 'sodium hydrogen carbonate' or with an other name 'sodium bicarbonate'.

Do dogs not tolerate Sodium CITRATE?


Eddie Farrell
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ive heard it said a couple of times on this site that sodium citrate wasnt great for them.oh and carole ill maill you later bit stuck for time now thanks.


Helen Kiely
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15 Feb 2008 16:56


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Beta cell is ok

So is LifeAid..........sold in Co Ops......in a blue box .......l

And Lectade in the sachets..........just mix it up


John Reilly
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15 Feb 2008 17:35


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Beta cell has sodium citrate in it


Gill Pirlot
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15 Feb 2008 17:43


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How do you know?
It only marks citrate on the formulation, could be potassium citrate.


John Reilly
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anything with citrate is not good and beta cel has citrate


Eddie Farrell
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oisin have you found athing without the s.citrate in it thats easily gotting in ireland?


Gill Pirlot
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What is that sweeping statement based on?
the two salts are very different, just as the chlorides are.



Mark Glennerster
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The main problem with sodium citrate in canines is that it supposidly causes the formation of stones inthe bladder because the combination of sodium and citrate is not well dealt with by the canine urinary system. This only affects some dogs but as a precaution sodium citrate is not recommended for canines, other species have no problems with products containing sodium citrate, pottassium citrate does evidently not cause the same problems as sodium citrate, really its a case of buyer beware.

There are plenty of over the counter electrolyte replacers without sodium citrate available in most countries, a little research is sometimes needed and a call to the manufacturers may be required or a visit at least to their website and ask the question in an email.

Em Gee.


Tom Flanagan
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Although the label may say Potassium Citrate, Sodium Chloride etc., all these exist as separate ions when in a solution. They dissociate when dissolved.

That is, an electrolyte solution with dissolved potassium chloride and sodium citrate contains seperate potassium ions, sodium ions, chloride ions and citrate ions.

An electrolyte solution with dissolved sodium chloride and potassium citrate also contains separate potassium ions, sodium ions, chloride ions and citrate ions, tho in different proportions.

So it seems to me that if there are problems with sodium citrate, you would be wanting to avoid citrate altogether or at least look for the electrolyte with the lowest proportion of citrate in it (and they vary widely).


John Reilly
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Tom your a 100 per cent, eddie i use BVP its a purple solution comes in 5 litre clear drum can be got in any vets or farm supplies


Eddie Farrell
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15 Feb 2008 22:12


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how much is it oisin?


John Reilly
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I'm not sure i think around 20 or 30 you mix one part BVP to 20 parts water you can also get it in one litre


Eddie Farrell
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thanks oisin



Jack Ogilvie
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Be very care full of products with sodium citrate.when I developed Black Tar I Dna tested 50 Greyhounds many dogs that were using a well known product with sodium citrate were cramping and dehydrated. So be aware of these products.Carole Brown was also a great advocate against this product Carole through all the blood tests she did on countless dogs found many were cramping and dehydrated. So beware.

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