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I have read MANY topics about natural feeding, and the conclusion is pretty much the same - natural GOOD, dryfood BAD... however i havent seen a single person writing about feeding active racing dogs a diet of NO rice, vegetables, weetabix or any other type of carbohydrate "supplement" . Does anyone have successful greyhounds living on a diet simular to this - meat, tripe, organ meat (heart) and fish, added oil for omega acids and vitamins and nothing else ? the reason im interested in this is that science show that this is pretty much the ideal diet for any dog out there, but if this ideal "dog diet" is also suited for a greyhound who is obviously not living a regular life, but instead trained to perform at as high level as possible. I myself have a "skinny" bitch who doesnt ha beefy muscle by nature, and she does gain weight when eating extra carbs (i added 120g of brown rice to her food). so when the racing season starts, and she'll get in better shape, will she be better of without the extra carbs? your thoughts?
Brian Young Australia (Verified User) Posts 987 Dogs 16 / Races 44 28 Dec 2012 19:58
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sren frost rudebeck wrote:
I have read MANY topics about natural feeding, and the conclusion is pretty much the same - natural GOOD, dryfood BAD... however i havent seen a single person writing about feeding active racing dogs a diet of NO rice, vegetables, weetabix or any other type of carbohydrate "supplement" . Does anyone have successful greyhounds living on a diet simular to this - meat, tripe, organ meat (heart) and fish, added oil for omega acids and vitamins and nothing else ? the reason im interested in this is that science show that this is pretty much the ideal diet for any dog out there, but if this ideal "dog diet" is also suited for a greyhound who is obviously not living a regular life, but instead trained to perform at as high level as possible. I myself have a "skinny" bitch who doesnt ha beefy muscle by nature, and she does gain weight when eating extra carbs (i added 120g of brown rice to her food). so when the racing season starts, and she'll get in better shape, will she be better of without the extra carbs? your thoughts?
Feeding Greyhounds is a very touchy subject and has resulted in many pages of debate on this and other forums. It would seem there is evidence to support every type of feeding formula you can come up with. Over the years I think I have tried them all but i personally lean toward limiting the carbs.
Brian Young Australia (Verified User) Posts 987 Dogs 16 / Races 44 28 Dec 2012 19:58
I have read them all I think :) and I actually ended up reading about 'dog food' and not 'greyhound food' .. And based what I have read I can only conclude that limiting carbs is the way to go.. In theory I'm convinced.. I posted this to hear if someone had some hands on experience with it :)
Helen Laird Ireland (Verified User) Posts 788 Dogs 15 / Races 0 28 Dec 2012 21:23
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A natural diet of a dog in the wild would include a ceratin amount of grains and carbs. The dogs would eat the stomach contents of it's prey, as well as eating grasses, herbs, berries, fruits and other animal droppings. The grains in the stomachs would have been pre-digested before the dog ate it.
The pioneer of a raw food diet for dogs,(and all animals) was Juliette de Bairacali Levy. She bred afghans and wrote her books on this well over 50 years ago. The ingredients in the natural diet she advocates for dogs are funnily enough, similar to the ones that the modern greyhound vets are telling us we should use - She adds kelp powder, wheatgerm, cod liver oil, apples, bananas, carrots, and veg.
Any dog, including greyhounds need carbs in the diet, as well as fats. If you feed higher amounts of protein, and not enough carbs then the dog will be skinny... you'll be putting it on the atkins diet in effect where it's burning it's own body fats.
John Geoghegan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 859 Dogs 18 / Races 0 28 Dec 2012 22:51
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having bred and reared over 50 irish field trail champions dogs and bitches i can tell you that i never had such sucess until i started feeding dry dog feed. i know you might say that i work for a dog feed company but if you ask anyone that know me they will be able to back this up. i now rear my greyhound the same way and cant complain with the results.
Brian Young Australia (Verified User) Posts 987 Dogs 16 / Races 44 28 Dec 2012 22:55
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helen laird wrote:
A natural diet of a dog in the wild would include a ceratin amount of grains and carbs. The dogs would eat the stomach contents of it's prey, as well as eating grasses, herbs, berries, fruits and other animal droppings. The grains in the stomachs would have been pre-digested before the dog ate it.
The pioneer of a raw food diet for dogs,(and all animals) was Juliette de Bairacali Levy. She bred afghans and wrote her books on this well over 50 years ago. The ingredients in the natural diet she advocates for dogs are funnily enough, similar to the ones that the modern greyhound vets are telling us we should use - She adds kelp powder, wheatgerm, cod liver oil, apples, bananas, carrots, and veg.
Any dog, including greyhounds need carbs in the diet, as well as fats. If you feed higher amounts of protein, and not enough carbs then the dog will be skinny... you'll be putting it on the atkins diet in effect where it's burning it's own body fats.
We will have to agree to disagree there Helen. In my opinion dogs have a totally different digestive system to humans. I feel it is a mistake many make in believing carbs are an energy source for dogs. Took me along while to get my head around it but when I did my win strike rate increased dramatically.
John Geoghegan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 859 Dogs 18 / Races 0 28 Dec 2012 23:09
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its all about having a balenced diet.
Paul Yeo Australia (Verified User) Posts 297 Dogs 0 / Races 0 28 Dec 2012 23:27
Bryan young.. How do you feed an average 30kg dog ? And how would this 'standard feeding' be different in case you had a skinny dog in training, one who would need to gain some muscle mass ?
John Geoghegan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 859 Dogs 18 / Races 0 28 Dec 2012 23:37
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sren frost rudebeck wrote:
Bryan young.. How do you feed an average 30kg dog ? And how would this 'standard feeding' be different in case you had a skinny dog in training, one who would need to gain some muscle mass ?
John Geoghegan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 859 Dogs 18 / Races 0 28 Dec 2012 23:42
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for me its all in the rearing if you dont do the rearing right its to late to try when u think they are ready to run. this is just not a thought this is proven as i have bred champion gundogs and greyhounds on this diet.
I agree that good rearing is a great way to increase the chance of success later in life.. But it ain't true that you cant make a great dog by feeding him good when hi is mature.. Plenty of examples of human athletes who come from poor living conditions as children, and didn't get good nutrition for whatever reason.. Or some fat kids who started doin sports late in life.. And compete on international level.. Same goes with race horses.. You can have a skinny and clearly underfed young horse and turn him around .. I'm not saying that rearing ain't important .. Just think you are wrong to say its to late to do anything if the dog is grown up..
Just realized you already answered that question.. My bad
John Geoghegan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 859 Dogs 18 / Races 0 29 Dec 2012 00:02
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having being envolved world wide with dogs raring AND BREEDING i can not come up with a dog that was reared poorly that became a champion as soon as it got good feed.then there theres always a first.
John Geoghegan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 859 Dogs 18 / Races 0 29 Dec 2012 00:04
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sren frost rudebeck wrote:
Just realized you already answered that question.. My bad
there is no bad question we are all in this to find what the best way to feed our pups i can only tell you how i bred some many chanpions be it gundogs or greyhounds.
I ain't gonna argue with you :) .. Right or wrong, it's still of topic
John Geoghegan Ireland (Verified User) Posts 859 Dogs 18 / Races 0 29 Dec 2012 00:14
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are u for real?.argue you are asking the questions im giving you my advice for free ? ive breed the champions and reared them.u tell me someone that hase breed reared as many champion gundogs and greyhounds that will give there advice free.
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