John are you serious ? you only need to check the results on Fasttrack regularly to see just how many winners Barcia is producing.

Yes he has throw. Some good ones but he has a poor overall average and as John said take away crystin bales litter and you have an average sire at best!

Anyway yes this is Fernando bales thread, it's far from tall poppy syndrome, it's based upon production and earning your way through results.

Bombastic Shiraz was at the top of his game, a far better strike rate and he was $3300 and progressed to $4400 and was ultra consistent.

Brett lee, collision, where's pedro etc.

What bale sire rates in the same stratosphere?

1 bartrim bale who was sold to China for a song. Bulldust baffles brains and I can't stand the smell!

Turanza bale is another one that was sold to China for a pittance!

For a smart man he sure ballsed up selling his best sires!

I did however have the foresight to convince Simon Burke to grab Aella as a brood bitch who produced the winner of the Perth cup. (He only got results when he was able to do things himself) and couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.

But Nathan what have you acheived in greyhounds?

The brood is everything "even wheeler beleived this" yet you all are fooled by the monetary value that suggest the sire is everything.

Doing things yourself entirely is the best thing, but rearers will also convince you that they provide the best like they are their own? I suppose you believe that!

I annoy people because I call cow dun as excrement when people want state cow dun as sweet smelling perfume!

That's a strategy sell the good ones when you have 10-20 vials for your own supplies and also limit people being able to a sire that produces, sell the duds for a motza and watch people burn their cash and also stay ahead of the game by racing ordinary stock, eat, sleep, repeat!

wipe the dribble off your chin, and the cow dun I can understand why Nathan posed the question! the way you go on anyone would think you are another paw all you do is rant on how he became successful you say you never had the opportunity sounds like you are waiting for a hand out like paw? everyone has the opportunity some do well some don't you like to praise yourself for having the foresight to convince simon burke to grab aella there was your opportunity you failed...you asked Nathan what he has achieved ? don't know Nathan and what success he has had, even if he has or hasn't much, he don't beat his chest like you do...and anyone else for that matter. most know the brood is everything no doubt the sire helps yet you go on about magic sprite!! why didn't you use him on witch on wheels??? guess if you owned Fernando bale you would have set the stud fee at 1650 yeah right!! give it rest champ your comments are ordinary at best if you havnt positive thoughts on subjects don't post

Simon was looking for brood bitch at the time and I already had three and he chose oaks road and in light of people saying he was nuts, yet he stuck with his gut and came up trumps. I failed no where in that and am merely pointing out that I have a fair idea.

In regards to witch on wheels which is completely off topic I oringally purchased and chose kinloche brae and after allowing myself to be influenced by others opinions used where's pedro and I have already said I wished I had followed my gut, yet by the castrophe that litter had you couldn't make a conclusion either way.

I did however follow my gut on a few sires proceeding that and in addition to that have changed a lot of processes along the way! It called learning.

This is about Fernando bale and in addition people have added In barcia bale which I have put forward an opinion to which John Macalister pointed out was fairly accurate.

I have stated before Fernando bale will either be a producer of good or bad dogs, that his stud fee in no way reflects his ability or the fact he is a freshman sure that has done nothing.

People use the fact he was a good box dog (a very individual learned behaviour at break in or before and after pre training) which is never been a character trait that has genetically passed on.
Early speed yes, strength yes, keenness or non chase etc are traits that pass on!

End of story!

Here we go again you CAN NOT use data states for any conclusion full STOP.

They are not accurate. John everybody except you seems to no this?

Jarrad do the hard yards and get on fast track and see for yourself.

I am sure Paw has plenty of straws in the tank from his studs that went abroad lol.
I better buy a Barcia straw asap because if he keeps producing good pups at this rate there will soon be a price rise for his semen.

john stop using Data stats, get on fast track and check the results often as i do, wherever you look Barcia is churning out winners.