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Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1954 Dogs 56 / Races 2 22 May 2015 00:16
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Fernando bale is no doubt a fast dog, but how many track records has he broken? how many decent pups will he produce? can't be put in anywhere near the same class as brett lee.
Dale Chapman Australia (Verified User) Posts 181 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 May 2015 01:32
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Matt James wrote:
Fernando bale is no doubt a fast dog, but how many track records has he broken? how many decent pups will he produce? can't be put in anywhere near the same class as brett lee.
The only reason he hasn't broken any track records is because they are bypassing all these country cups etc to focus on the big races, unlike Brett Lee. Fernando had 2 looks at Ballarat and the second time he went close to it, and first look at Geelong he went 3 lengths off BMO's record.
If they wanted him to break records they'd take him all over the country and do it, simply! But that's not that plan
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 May 2015 02:07
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We had a dog many years ago that was very quick from the boxes WP record holder etc Gliders Son CLICK HERE threw winners but ......Matt is right maybe step him out for some horse shoe tracks the Hobart 1000 is a nice race 3lgths or 2/10ths off a track record is a long way in doggy speak especially on 1 turners like Hobart etc ....like I said earlier Shakey ran 11.34 on his run home at WP the evening after the Easter Egg ran the record of 29.07 Fernando much faster earlier but 11.7+ a lot of good dogs can run that very few run 11.5
Ray Morcomb Australia (Verified User) Posts 1331 Dogs 6 / Races 0 22 May 2015 02:18
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I totally agree.
The fact that they never started him ever again really spoke volumes to me.
The dog is a fraud !!!!!!!!
Fernando on the other hand is the REAL DEAL
ben george wrote:
Really Grant???? Shakey is like The Knacks song My Sharona. One hit wonder. You can't compare apples and a lemon surely your taking the p#ss.
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 May 2015 02:59
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Gee Ray your a bit harsh on Shakey are you not so the real deal has no chinks in the old armour Ray mate that dog that ran 2nd last nite took a fair bit of space of the real deal and the real deals previous run was similar his back half other dogs can run or go faster ...no they will meet in the breeding barn Ray and that's where their true race is ...I'll back Shakey
Doug Taylor Australia (Verified User) Posts 1896 Dogs 22 / Races 1 22 May 2015 03:21
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John McAlister wrote:
that dog that ran 2nd last nite took a fair bit of space of the real deal and the real deals previous run was similar his back half other dogs can run or go faster
Bit irrelevant if there's dogs that can run the back half faster though John, you seem to be forgetting they can't run the first half anywhere near as quick. The only important factor is what they run overall and since Fernando took home the big cheque I'm pretty sure that makes him the winner.
Just judging a dog on a run home is pretty pointless I think, Surgeon ran home quick, so did Sand Burner, Texas Gold.... how did they all go?
Not saying Shakey can't make it, no risk he had a motor but until his pups do it on the track I'll wait and see because we didn't see enough of him on the racetrack to judge him just on that for mine.
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 May 2015 07:05
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Shakey's track record was every bit as good as we will see for a long time irrespective of how many starts he had I know he has plenty of question marks above his head because of that non continuation of his racing career but D Pringle had a choice and he chose stud duties Wheeler also has the same choice and that's to race the dog maybe he wants this dog to win 1 million dollars gee what a milestone but Shakey also has a Milestone on his agenda and at present he has around 70 litters which equates to around 115000 dollars still pretty good moola for mine and he has the jump on any dog going to stud from here on in Jo's been thinking of bringing this girl down here CLICK HERE now I told her she can this or this CLICK HERE I told her she loses nothing going to either dog if she does this
Forum Administrator (Team Member) Posts 200 Dogs 3 / Races 1 22 May 2015 08:14
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The topic is about Fernando Bale. It's not about who should be, or who could be the fastest from the past. The answer to that question will be never answered. Lets move on & keep to the topic.
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 22 May 2015 10:02
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looks like the dog wont be available in australia . except to the chosen few ,,
around the traps today says the dog is off to china
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 22 May 2015 10:25
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Their wrong Mick
Ray Morcomb Australia (Verified User) Posts 1331 Dogs 6 / Races 0 22 May 2015 11:20
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There is a wery old saying that goes like this -
"If it's too go to be true, it probably is".
John McAlister wrote:
Gee Ray your a bit harsh on Shakey are you not so the real deal has no chinks in the old armour Ray mate that dog that ran 2nd last nite took a fair bit of space of the real deal and the real deals previous run was similar his back half other dogs can run or go faster ...no they will meet in the breeding barn Ray and that's where their true race is ...I'll back Shakey
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 22 May 2015 12:20
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well he went over there Steve maybe we will hear more soon
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 23 May 2015 01:59
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steven martin wrote:
Their wrong Mick
hope so steve, id like to use him, on a couple of bitches
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 23 May 2015 06:41
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Gee Mick I wonder what odds you would get he never went over there for nothing that's how I see it let's give it a couple of weeks maybe the gurus will know something
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7402 Dogs 26 / Races 9 23 May 2015 07:03
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John McAlister wrote:
Gee Mick I wonder what odds you would get he never went over there for nothing that's how I see it let's give it a couple of weeks maybe the gurus will know something
he wasn't alone over there, there was another high profile breeder from up your way with him lolllllllllllllll and we now have a free trade agreement with china lolllllllllllll
a fact finding trip id say and lets hope paul gives us a bit of info on how things work over there ,,
Ray Morcomb Australia (Verified User) Posts 1331 Dogs 6 / Races 0 06 Jun 2015 06:30
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Why does Greyhound Racing NSW and The Dogs website keep saying that Fernando Bale is undefeated at WPK???
John McAlister Australia (Verified User) Posts 6567 Dogs 1 / Races 0 06 Jun 2015 06:40
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Yes I heard he went zipping along over there with another trainer Mick from up this way
Calum Andersen Australia (Verified User) Posts 913 Dogs 5 / Races 1 06 Jun 2015 06:44
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Ray Morcomb wrote:
Why does Greyhound Racing NSW and The Dogs website keep saying that Fernando Bale is undefeated at WPK???
Im not sure, but he aint!
Ray Morcomb Australia (Verified User) Posts 1331 Dogs 6 / Races 0 06 Jun 2015 08:31
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Cant these fools read a form guid?
Makes you worry when they are the ones handing out tips.
I cant stand GR NSW in fact I hate it
calum andersen wrote:
Ray Morcomb wrote:
Why does Greyhound Racing NSW and The Dogs website keep saying that Fernando Bale is undefeated at WPK???
Im not sure, but he aint!
Phil Hall Australia (Verified User) Posts 1320 Dogs 21 / Races 21 06 Jun 2015 09:52
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