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Charles W Mizzi
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Nathan Trigg wrote:

IMO until we get racing ministers in place that actually have a passion for racing and not just using the position as a stepping stone for their career it's always going to be a struggle for the sport to prosper.

I agree, and whenever do they become accountable.......never. GRV have people still employed after making mistakes that caused demotion only, recycled into another positions, in the real world they would be sacked.

The buck stops with the racing minister...............will he take responsibility? Not likely, Next year come November we will have the opportunity to vote this Government and minister out. Start planning on what you will do to make a difference. This goes across all three codes.


Charles W Mizzi
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Kevin Wright
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bill deguara wrote:

Why does it seem that in most states the leaders seem to be so blatantly stupid as to what is good and what is bad for our sport.Are they not seeing what is happening blind freddy can see it but they seem to be ignoring all the signs that stand out like dog's balls,yet they keep introducing new rules that are detremental to greyhound racing in all states,
Breeding started to decline when the ban was introduced, they should know that this was going to have a tremendous effect on breeding when nobody knew what the future held,So why not bring in something to encourage people to breed again [Eg substantial breeding bonuses can be a start] get rid of the rule where only a certain number of greyhounds can be bred,stop bending over to every whim the do gooders bring up, welfare issues have become so bloody ridiculous that SOON, every time a dog has a bowel movement we will be forced to wipe it's backside with with antiseptic toilet paper.

Bill
Its called Death by stealth ..
These great minds put together a way of closing down a Industry ...
There is more to this but surely now people can see the true agenda ...
Bill who is going to help ....

The Silence is deafening but i do see some spark in the GOTBA finally so thats a bonus ....




Mark Staines
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10 Sep 2017 00:36


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So does that mean leading trainers other than Rob Britton are going to grow a set and speak out ????



Kevin Wright
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10 Sep 2017 07:43


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Mark Staines wrote:

So does that mean leading trainers other than Rob Britton are going to grow a set and speak out ????

Your guess is as good as mine Mark

it must come from within ...



Johnathon Campbell
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Breeding is declining but try and buy a good bitch off the track.
Try and find a good chain of people to get your pup to the track.
I tried to move dogs the other day and the people I talked too all wanted the good race dog and would make room for it but the rest, pups broods they didn't want a bar of.
This industry is not set up to look after owners.



Terry Jordan
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10 Sep 2017 08:31


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Mark Staines wrote:

So does that mean leading trainers other than Rob Britton are going to grow a set and speak out ????

Mark: What happened in NSW with Baird-Brain, was he stated we Got It Wrong! But what he reiterated later was, we were right in principle (to close the Industry down) we got it wrong the way we introduced the closure. Under Glady's and Toole we are still operating on Baird's closure operation. Poor Glady's cant/wont change the status Quo Baird introduced. Gibbons is the cloned version of Newson. Every dollar will be sponged up on Welfare and integrity, to cause the Industry to survive on the edge of Bankruptcy. (Hence no P/money increases) Where are our Centres of Excellence being built? Which tracks are being UPGRADED? Welfare? how many corner starts have been realigned? taken forward? or Back? How many Starting boxes been upgraded as per recommended? How many NEW GAP centres do we now have? Where is the $41 million being spent? where is our TAX HARMINISATION MILLIONS? How many new GRNSW employee's have we recruited over the last 12 months. Less Trainers, Breeders, Rearers, Breakers, Owners! Now more Commissioners, Integrity officers, Assistants, Senior Assistants, Secretaries, Office space, Cars, Mobile Phones, More Salaries, Sick leave, Long Service leave, Holiday pay, Superannuation, etc etc Now we can understand why the new fee's, need to be introduced come 2018!


Mark Staines
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The $41 million was never adequate just like the Intercode agreement and there is a common
denominator Mr Scott/GBOTA.



Steven Martin
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The lack of depth regarding greyhounds in QUEENSLAND was proven this week after the YOUNG GUNS HEAT which were scheduled at Albion Pk Thursday night, reduced the Albion Pk Monday night race meeting to 5 x 395m & 5 x 520m races.

Until this time last year, Monday night racing has always been raced over 520m Plus race distances.

But since the down-turn in breeding due to the newly over regulated breeding rules that were introduced in 2015, last Monday nights racing at Albion Pk for the first time in the clubs history had to rely on the unfashionable 395m race distance to allow the racing to go ahead.

It's evident we're starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel in this State, but still there's no sign of reprieve from those incharge...but it only gets worse.

With an election about to be called in Qld within the next week or so, hope in the sunshine State looks very very gloomy, as I can't see any improvements happening soon while the office gets fumigated, and those who take over decide on the much needed changes.


Michael Geraghty
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22 Sep 2017 12:03


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Terry Jordan wrote:

Mark Staines wrote:

So does that mean leading trainers other than Rob Britton are going to grow a set and speak out ????

Mark: What happened in NSW with Baird-Brain, was he stated we Got It Wrong! But what he reiterated later was, we were right in principle (to close the Industry down) we got it wrong the way we introduced the closure. Under Glady's and Toole we are still operating on Baird's closure operation. Poor Glady's cant/wont change the status Quo Baird introduced. Gibbons is the cloned version of Newson. Every dollar will be sponged up on Welfare and integrity, to cause the Industry to survive on the edge of Bankruptcy. (Hence no P/money increases) Where are our Centres of Excellence being built? Which tracks are being UPGRADED? Welfare? how many corner starts have been realigned? taken forward? or Back? How many Starting boxes been upgraded as per recommended? How many NEW GAP centres do we now have? Where is the $41 million being spent? where is our TAX HARMINISATION MILLIONS? How many new GRNSW employee's have we recruited over the last 12 months. Less Trainers, Breeders, Rearers, Breakers, Owners! Now more Commissioners, Integrity officers, Assistants, Senior Assistants, Secretaries, Office space, Cars, Mobile Phones, More Salaries, Sick leave, Long Service leave, Holiday pay, Superannuation, etc etc Now we can understand why the new fee's, need to be introduced come 2018!

Go to the top of the class, TJ.
Baird's "We got it wrong" was a complete double entendre.
Nothing less than an independent commission running racing will stop the genocide, free from ANY political influence.
The next best thing is a pressure group so strong that it will make them quiver ever time they make a wrong move.
Buckley's and none chance for the first...slightly better than Buckley's for the second.
The Greyhound industry is now political live baiting.
Suppression at its finest.


Michael Geraghty
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steven martin wrote:

The lack of depth regarding greyhounds in QUEENSLAND was proven this week after the YOUNG GUNS HEAT which were scheduled at Albion Pk Thursday night, reduced the Albion Pk Monday night race meeting to 5 x 395m & 5 x 520m races.

Until this time last year, Monday night racing has always been raced over 520m Plus race distances.

But since the down-turn in breeding due to the newly over regulated breeding rules that were introduced in 2015, last Monday nights racing at Albion Pk for the first time in the clubs history had to rely on the unfashionable 395m race distance to allow the racing to go ahead.

It's evident we're starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel in this State, but still there's no sign of reprieve from those incharge...but it only gets worse.

With an election about to be called in Qld within the next week or so, hope in the sunshine State looks very very gloomy, as I can't see any improvements happening soon while the office gets fumigated, and those who take over decide on the much needed changes.

Stevo,

This Monday - 4x520m, 1x600m, 3x395m, and 2x331m.
Yep, we now have 331m races on Monday...well, well, well, it's not a good look forward, is it.
What makes that worse is they had to extend noms 3 TIMES even to get those.

It's a sad sad sad situation.

I'm sure the PTB have a plan and an announcement is just around the corner.


Graham Haswell
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Don't hold your breath waiting for anything from RQ or QRIC. Michael! !!

Greyhound Industry doesn't have a voice there.


Kev Galloway
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This Labour Government is ALMOST as corrupt as the Bjelke ones,they appointed McSporran (a guy with NO knowledge of the code)to do a hatchet job on the greyhound industry,he was so successful they made him head of the Crime and Corruption Committee, so with no breeding scheme and idiotic breeding restrictions,this government is a disaster for the greyhound code.


Sandro Bechini
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Kev,

Lately it doesn't seem to matter what color jersey they have on, I haven't truly seen any government in power be a champion for the code since the Dennis Napthine Coalition Government in Victoria

And its only 5 short years ago....ahhh how things have changed

Geoff Collins wrote:

As per the following Press Release ...

Coalition leads initiative to boost jobs in Greyhound racing

A Victorian Coalition Government investment announced today by Minister for Racing Denis Napthine will provide significantly greater incentives to breed and race greyhounds in Victoria.

Dr Napthine said the new incentives in the Greyhound Owners and Breeders Incentive Scheme (GOBIS) would cement Victorias reputation as the number one greyhound racing state in Australia, if not the world.

The greyhound racing and breeding industry is worth $200 million to the Victorian economy and close to 2,000 jobs, Dr Napthine said.

These new measures will stimulate further growth in the industry by offering owners, trainers and breeders who race Victorian-bred greyhounds access to even bigger bonus pools, Dr Napthine said.

The $2.8 million package is jointly funded by the Coalition Government through its Victorian Racing Industry Fund ($1.55 million over four years) and Greyhound Racing Victoria ($1.25 million over four years).

The revamped GOBIS, which was first established in 1994, will now include the following additional incentives for registered GOBIS greyhounds (further details attached):

A $500 Metro GOBIS Bonus for the winners of all races at main metropolitan meetings. This is in addition to existing bonuses.
A $10,000 Group GOBIS Bonus for the winners of all Victorian Group races.
If the winner of the above Bonus races is not a GOBIS registered greyhound, then 50 per cent of the bonus will be paid to the first GOBIS dog that finishes in the placings (i.e.2nd or 3rd).
50 per cent of the existing bonus will also be paid to the first GOBIS dog that finishes in the places (i.e. 2nd or 3rd) for the existing 740 scheduled GOBIS races across the State if the winner of those races is not GOBIS registered.
Support of a Ready to Race auction series for young un-raced greyhounds, opening up greater opportunities for ownership. Special consideration to participate will be given to GOBIS registered and/or eligible greyhounds.

These new GOBIS measures provide greater incentive to breed a Victorian greyhound to race in Victoria, whether it is at the top Group level, in races at the two metropolitan tracks or in races across the eleven country tracks, Dr Napthine said.

Each year, in addition to the existing 740 GOBIS races, there will now be more than 1,000 metro and 32 Group races conducted across Victoria offering GOBIS bonuses. This will provide enormous opportunities to collect these enhanced bonuses.

The win of Zara Zulu in the recent Australian Cup proves Victorian bred greyhounds are amongst the best in Australia and I look forward to many more Victorian champions like her in the future, Dr Napthine said.

GRV Chairman Peter Caillard said this significant government funding offered a tremendous boost for Victorian breeders.

As of April 1, there will be a $500 bonus every time a GOBIS registered greyhound wins a race at either of the two main metropolitan weekly meetings. With more than 20 of these city races held every week, there are plenty of opportunities to cash in on this great incentive. The GOBIS incentives in country racing also increase, Mr Caillard said.

The Ready to Race Auctions will create a much easier pathway to enter the sport. Potential owners will be able to watch greyhounds trial before making an offer. This will drastically cut the waiting period between purchasing a greyhound and the time that greyhound races from about eighteen months to just a matter of months.

Greyhound Owners Trainers and Breeders Association President Geoff Collins said the GOBIS scheme was one of the most successful initiatives ever introduced into Victorian greyhound racing and was recognised as being the best of its kind in Australia.

These new incentives will continue to showcase the GOBIS schemes value to Victorian breeders and offer just rewards for producing top class quality greyhounds, Mr Collins said.

Dr Napthine said 2011 was a tremendous year for Victorias greyhound racing industry, with strong growth in the industry, and this was reflected in the substantial increase in wagering market share for greyhounds.

This financial year there will be a record $30 million distributed in prize money, which is 11 per cent up from the previous year. In addition, we have seen the opening of world class new racing and spectator facilities at Geelong, Healesville and most recently at Bendigo, Dr Napthine said.




Terry Jordan
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I'm guessing Mick is right Re: Announcement coming, along these lines "Land has been purchased for a Multi Facet Centre for Greyhound Racing and other Sports incorporated within. Plans have been submitted for a One turn Track facility, The Industry has desperately needed for a number of years, A second Two turn track is also being considered with the space available, as is a Straight -Track of 400m WE ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF GROWING, AND NOURISHING THIS GREAT INDUSTRY"...Etc..Etc.......Vote 1 ALP at the up coming election. Support us, as we have supported YOU! TRUST US!
Adjunct to the above: YOU MUST HAND/OVER ALBION
PARK...HHHHHHAAAAAA ...Heard that before?



Steven Martin
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You know things are getting pretty crook regarding greyhound numbers when a 720m race at Wentworth Pk tonight (the only one on the card), which is a No-Grade event and consists of 1st graders right up to 5th graders.....can only fetch a 6 dog field.

If those that control our sport were fair-dinkum, a press release voicing there concerns & how they are going to increase & encourage whelping numbers would have been issued YESTERDAY.

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING besides being asleep behind the wheel ???? An agenda comes to mind.

Country tracks in NSW, look out....as your about to be starved to death.


Kev Galloway
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Animals Australia agenda?


Sandro Bechini
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steven martin wrote:

Country tracks in NSW, look out....as your about to be starved to death.

That's the plan Steve

Non-TAB's to disappear


Terry Jordan
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kev galloway wrote:

Animals Australia agenda?

Kev: How much is this shortage due to opposition to the FOL?
Not a supporter myself, but agree some dogs perform better under those circumstances. And Yes, Dogs would much prefer to chew on a Cow's Tail than something looking like a Mop! Please Stop listening to the LOUD 5% of the population (Who live in Green Belts & University's )and start thinking how Dogs think! THEY HAVE SO=CALLED EXPERTS!



Steven Martin
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Sandro Bechini wrote:

That's the plan Steve

Non-TAB's to disappear


Yep. They've been trying for 20 years as we know Sandro, but the volunteers always stepped up.

The only way to close the gates is to starve the food chain from the top.

If country tracks (& they will suffer first) can't program a weekend of racing, where is the income going to come from to pay the rent.

You better start saving your penny's as only the strongest (if any) will survive.

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