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GOTBA Day of Action 3rd July 2021page  1 2 

Charles W Mizzi
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IT'S TIME!!!!
Please watch this space (and, members: emails, SMS) for further updates and details....

CALL TO ACTION - SAFE RACING, FAIR TREATMENT, FAIR PAY - 3 July 2021
19/06/2021 10:00 AMAnonymous
19 June 2021

OPEN LETTER TO VICTORIAN GREYHOUND RACING PARTICIPANTS

NO CONFIDENCE IN GREYHOUND RACING VICTORIA (GRV) - A call to action

The Greyhound Owners Trainers and Breeders Association of Victoria Inc (GOTBA Vic) represents Victorian greyhound racing participants.

We no longer have confidence in Greyhound Racing Victoria (GRV). Nor should you.

GOTBA Vic believes Victorian greyhound participants need to take action for fair pay, fair treatment and safe racing.

Action will occur, first on 3 July 2021. We have support from large, medium and small kennels for it. Stand together to get change.

Stay tuned for further details.

THE GOALS

ISSUE

GOAL

Safe racing

GRV to commit in writing to a 5 and 10 year club works program, with a committed funding path, implementing key recommendation of major independent track safety reports.

Fair pay - Participant returns

GRV written commitment to return 50% of its gross annual income to participants annually, on and from 1 July 2022, to fix continued slide in participant share of the sports income.

Fair treatment

A commitment to introduce contaminant threshold levels across a range of commonly found feed and environment contaminants.

By appointment only private property inspections in all circumstances save where a rule breach affecting greyhound welfare is known or reasonably suspected. Basis for knowledge or suspicion to be delivered in writing on inspection.

A commitment to not pursue rule/policy changes without publicly released cost / benefit analysis, prior participant input and pre-change written feedback on consideration of that input.

GRV management

Independent external costs review of GRV administration, to be publicly released.

WHY THIS IS CRITICAL

For many years your GOTBA has advocated, from a participant perspective, issues that have real impact on the lives of participants and the care and welfare of their greyhounds. Since 2015, participants have driven and effected necessary change, at significant financial and other cost.

For several years, but again recently, GOTBA Vic has raised concerns re track safety, sinking participant returns per race / as a share of GRV income, and participant fairness. We have done this with GRV, the Office of Racing and the Minister. Issues are well past critical.

In GRV, under its current leadership, we have an arrogant, disingenuous (see table in Schedule 1) administration, hardwired to put participants last, usually under cover of faux marketing speak. You are not respected in action. Consultation is only a catchphrase. Promises of change made and then immediately forgotten are standard.

GRV changes nothing in lasting form, offers more of the same and its fellow bureaucrats support that.

Fair pay

On participant returns, on a per race/meeting basis (the only basis that matters), Victoria has gone from first Australia wide to near last under the current administration. It is Australias most costly per meeting greyhound jurisdiction to run racing. Participation costs compliance, basic feed, ancillary racing (eg catching) costs - have mushroomed in this time. When last reported, participants received LESS PER MEETING ON AVERAGE THAN 6 YEARS AGO.

GRV has for seven years driven participant % returns lower to fund exploding wage bills for administrators, consultant fees and media contracts. The money is not going to clubs (particularly coursing). It has not gone to infrastructure. Participants returns have been are - diverted to the tune of $7m -$10m per year.

Major, permanent change is needed. This is not all about individual increases.

In March 2021 GRV refused point blank to guarantee ANY minimum % return of its income to participants. You (therefore your greyhounds too) do NOT get a fair share. Check out the table at the end of this letter.

Record prizemoney is a charade. On prizemoney, GRV will likely return in financial year 20-21 the lowest % of its revenue to participants this century: disguised under cover of unwarranted and unconsulted race program expansion used to fund administrative cost blowout.

This expansion strategy is bad for you, bad for your ability to care for dogs, bad for the ability to rehome more of them and bad for track safety (trial and race load on tracks with persistently long-term underfunded infrastructure).

We no longer have confidence in GRV permanently giving fair pay to participants.

Safe racing

On track safety, GRV has failed to action many independent expert track safety recommendations. Capital expenditure was habitually deferred pre-COVID to minimise GRV losses.

Despite major trainers in 2020 coming together with track preparation concerns in crisis meetings in which promises were made by GRV, we still see, for example, unsafe racing and major injuries after extensive harrowing of tracks far too close to meetings/trials.

We no longer have confidence in GRV ensuring safe racing.

Fair treatment

On participant fairness, GRV refuses to recognise the impact of the extensive issue of feed or other cross-contamination and actively promotes rules or policies that treat participants like criminals in all but name for obviously accidental occurrences, where race and welfare impact is non-existent. It recently, with a tin ear, indicated a doubling down of this.

GRV refuses to listen to and action real concerns. It routinely approves rule changes, then consults on them. There is a distinct culture at GRV of treating participants as little more than serfs.

We no longer have confidence in GRV treating participants fairly and respectfully.

WHY PARTICPANT ACTION IS NEEDED

GOTBA Vic has received no comfort from GRV that the current administration gets it, or participant anger.

GRV tries to freeze out critics. Pushed into any corner, it makes long term, vague promises that it bins. No change will happenunless you make it happen.

GRV will respect participants only through collective action that continues until goals are achieved.

We call on Victorian participants. Nothing will change unless you make it.

THE COMMITTEE

GOTBA VICTORIA

GOTBA Victoria

Rumours abound about GRV contacting media outlets that it advertises with - with money not coming to you - about not mentioning the 3rd of July action. Or else advertising funding is threatened. We are investigating this further. Subject to what we find, we would consider making a complaint to the Office of the Racing Integrity Commissioner under s 37B(1)(ea) (investigate public interest complaints that relate to the conduct of a controlling body
or an employee, officer or member of a
controlling body) of the Racing Act in relation to it.

DM us if you have further information.



Peter Franklin
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Umm I must have missed something.
Welfare of doggies 1st ??
When the AFL and Racing Victoria were cutting to the bone during Covid-19, GRV reduced prize money and gave management and administration pay increases. Heres what happened during Covid-19 sanctions:
* GRV income increased from $103.6m to $106.6m.
* GRV senior executive group remuneration cost increased 30% $2.343m to $3.038m.
* GRV total administrative expenses rose 13.4% $12.63m to $14.37m.
* GRV board wages and expenses increased 25% $671k to $836k.
* GRV total expenditure (excluding prizemoney and infrastructure) rose 5.7% to $56.7m.
* Full-time equivalent employees at GRV reached a record 192.
* Consultancies increased 11% to more than $1m yet returns to participants went down despite more races and meetings being run than in FY 2018/19.
GRV reduced prize money and at the same time increased administration and management costs despite Minister Martin Pakula stating in senate estimates that GRV have reduced administrative costs by around $800,000 per month and he was wrong.
Projections are that in FY 20/21 percentage return to Victorian participants will be the lowest this century. There is no end to the waste


Charles W Mizzi
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Correct Peter


Charles W Mizzi
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4 days to go!


Charles W Mizzi
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SMH Article

EXTERNAL LINK


Hayden Gilders
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Grv own 8.75% of rsn radio (3uz unit trust) no wonder Gareth hall gave them a soft cock interview this morning


Charles W Mizzi
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noms count closing tomorrow

Ballarat 1
Cran 12 but was 15
Meadows 1



Jack Ogilvie
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So sad its come to this .The board have to realise they are here for us not themselves


Brett Margerison
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Hayden Gilders wrote:

Grv own 8.75% of rsn radio (3uz unit trust) no wonder Gareth hall gave them a soft cock interview this morning

Then dirtied up when someone called him out...


Marguerite Proctor
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Good to see trainers sticking together stick it up GRV dictatorship.we are making the money for the industry.no long service no super no sickies only thing we get is grief.



Jamie Quinlivian
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Okay, so how exactly did we 'stick it up them?'

By giving the anti-racing greens exactly what they want? No racing!
By forfeiting $168,000 of prizemoney?
By removing any chance of a days pay for trainers, owners, breeders?
Do you think Alan Clayton lost any sleep over this?
Do you think GRV head office are in 'crisis talks?'
You are kidding yourselves.

And what's the next great plan?
Did I hear someone say 3-day strike? Yep well I'm sure Britton, Azzopardi and Dellbridge can afford that, but they may not have the support they had this time around.

And where are the all the critics when I said having a million dollar race with a $75,000 entry fee was ridiculous? Oooh, don't criticize GRV they said, GRV do a great job they said. All gone silent now because it's the big boys having a whinge this time.

Another strike is not the solution. You don't want to race for $5000? Fine, pack up your kennels and move to Adelaide and race for $2500. You dont want to race at Ballarat for $1700, go to Mount Gambier and race for $650.

Apart from having a lying communist as Premier, Victoria is the place to be for greyhound racing. As for prizemoney allocations to participants - I totally agree, we should get more of the pie. But striking is not the solution.
What is the solution?
I gave it to you 5 years ago.

https:/ CLICK HERE




Jamie Quinlivian
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Okay, so how exactly did we 'stick it up them?'

By giving the anti-racing greens exactly what they want? No racing!
By forfeiting $168,000 of prizemoney?
By removing any chance of a days pay for trainers, owners, breeders?
Do you think Alan Clayton lost any sleep over this?
Do you think GRV head office are in 'crisis talks?'
You are kidding yourselves.

And what's the next great plan?
Did I hear someone say 3-day strike? Yep well I'm sure Britton, Azzopardi and Dellbridge can afford that, but they may not have the support they had this time around.

And where are the all the critics when I said having a million dollar race with a $75,000 entry fee was ridiculous? Oooh, don't criticize GRV they said, GRV do a great job they said. All gone silent now because it's the big boys having a whinge this time.

Another strike is not the solution. You don't want to race for $5000? Fine, pack up your kennels and move to Adelaide and race for $2500. You dont want to race at Ballarat for $1700, go to Mount Gambier and race for $650.

Apart from having a lying communist as Premier, Victoria is the place to be for greyhound racing. As for prizemoney allocations to participants - I totally agree, we should get more of the pie. But striking is not the solution.
What is the solution?
I gave it to you 5 years ago.

CLICK HERE



Mark Staines
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Spoken like a true Liberal / National die hard !!!!
Iron Bar Tucky would be so proud of you !!!


Charles W Mizzi
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Jamie, I have been away for a while, were you not treated poorly by GRV a few years back?.......

Do you think GOTBA have not gone over this with a fine tooth comb and in this case majority rules and participants are finally sticking together and GOTBA have found some teeth.

People have made a choice, you do not have to agree but all this did not happen last week or last year, it has been building since John Stevens left after the 2012 ombudsman report.

I have some experience in these matters. A statement made by a past employee of GRV at the top end, " people at GRV are not interested in greyhounds or greyhound racing, they only think about their paypacket.

Hope you and yours are well Jamie.





Jamie Quinlivian
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charles w mizzi wrote:

Jamie, I have been away for a while, were you not treated poorly by GRV a few years back?.......

Do you think GOTBA have not gone over this with a fine tooth comb and in this case majority rules and participants are finally sticking together and GOTBA have found some teeth.

People have made a choice, you do not have to agree but all this did not happen last week or last year, it has been building since John Stevens left after the 2012 ombudsman report.

I have some experience in these matters. A statement made by a past employee of GRV at the top end, " people at GRV are not interested in greyhounds or greyhound racing, they only think about their paypacket.

Hope you and yours are well Jamie.

No it was GRSA that treated me like dirt Charles. I think they have drained the swamp over there now though. I've had a few run ins with GRV, as we all have, but they have mostly been fine, although I'm not in favour of some of the stuff they come up with. But a nomination strike proves nothing and the threat of doing it for 3 days is nonsense.
I see Healesville had 140 noms for Sunday. That would be all the 311m dogs that missed out on Cranbourne.
Healesville usually only get 90-110 noms. So 30 dogs miss out on a run. And for what result?





Jamie Quinlivian
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Mark Staines wrote:

Spoken like a true Liberal / National die hard !!!!
Iron Bar Tucky would be so proud of you !!!

Hard line conservative yes indeed Mark. But I wouldn't align myself with any party these days. All as corrupt as each other.



Charles W Mizzi
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Shadow Racing Ministers
Tim Bull's response
EXTERNAL LINK


David Plumridge
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I think its great that Victorian participants have stuck together. GOTBA Vic have been trying for a while to get these issues addressed and GRV have ignored them. To not even try to negotiate re the 3 issues is negligent of GRV in my opinion.#2 issue re prizemoney, quote from GOTBA Vic President - "Its basically dropped from around 55 per cent 10 years ago to about 40-41 per cent this year". Surely if your from GRV you would be saying ok these are the reasons this has happened, we'll start gradually to increase this aiming to get back to say 50% within 3/4 years, but nothing - it would appear when they give prizemoney increases it is only drip feeding participants. The recent increase re Tier3 racing was great and welcomed though, but it would appear that there is alot more that should be coming across the board re prize money.


Graeme Beasley
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david plumridge wrote:

I think its great that Victorian participants have stuck together. GOTBA Vic have been trying for a while to get these issues addressed and GRV have ignored them. To not even try to negotiate re the 3 issues is negligent of GRV in my opinion.#2 issue re prizemoney, quote from GOTBA Vic President - "Its basically dropped from around 55 per cent 10 years ago to about 40-41 per cent this year". Surely if your from GRV you would be saying ok these are the reasons this has happened, we'll start gradually to increase this aiming to get back to say 50% within 3/4 years, but nothing - it would appear when they give prizemoney increases it is only drip feeding participants. The recent increase re Tier3 racing was great and welcomed though, but it would appear that there is alot more that should be coming across the board re prize money.

Pretty sure we all know why this happened. You can thank the 'live baiters' and other cheats as well as those who don't give a toss about the dogs (or other animals) themselves for the industry/sport being policed within an inch of its life ($$$). The secondary problem is that GRV won't rub some of them out for life, even when they're serial cheats or serious offenders.

IMO greyhound racing's not really in a position to be greedy. It might not even be in a position to have people make a living from it, all caused by the cheats and their ilk. Of course, this 'day of action' isn't being led by hobbyists...


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"UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL"

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