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Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 05 Dec 2021 05:06
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1 tenth of a second = 1.5 lengths x 10 = 15 lengths
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 05:49
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for sure use it as a rough measurement, also if you say that then half a sec is 7.5lens not 8 lens.
so if you start off by saying: 8 lens is .5 (half a sec) 4 lens is .25 2 lens is .13(rounded off from .125) 1 len is .06
therefore 1.5 lens is between .09 & .10 (not quite .10) so to say "1.5 lengths x 10 = 15 lengths " is not quite mathematically correct :)
Steven John Lloyd United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 51 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 05:50
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Length = 0.08 in U.K. & 0.07 in Ireland .... it was yesterday anyway... off topic I know but purely Only an example
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 05:54
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well that same dog racing here will be a lot slower dog assuming what you are saying is correct Steven.
I shld add there was an extremely successful punter in Vic that used .07 as 1 len but he was the only one, the rest of the pros used .06 = 1 len afaik
Steven John Lloyd United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 51 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 06:06
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Its for me one of the bug bearers in Greyhound Racing that we are unable to settle the issue who has the Best Dogs Ire U.K. / Aus ....Horse Racing is capable of doing it and successfully too . Technology is for ever going forward & one day who knows
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 06:12
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Steven John Lloyd wrote:
Length = 0.08 in U.K. & 0.07 in Ireland .... it was yesterday anyway...
I don't know that it's correct to say this because you are assessing the trk and not the dog on that particular day ? if that makes any sense?
Steven John Lloyd United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 51 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 06:20
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Its common in U.K. & Ire for track running surfaces to differ throughout the year , its the same in all outdoor sports, but anyway we are way off topic
Mark Staines Australia (Verified User) Posts 4497 Dogs 70 / Races 14 05 Dec 2021 06:22
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Steven John Lloyd wrote:
Its for me one of the bug bearers in Greyhound Racing that we are unable to settle the issue who has the Best Dogs Ire U.K. / Aus ....Horse Racing is capable of doing it and successfully too . Technology is for ever going forward & one day who knows
Australia has the best Hounds, has done for decades !
Steven John Lloyd United Kingdom (Verified User) Posts 51 Dogs 0 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 06:48
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Mark, its how long is a piece of string scenario... this has been debated on endless Topics... it might never be resolved in our lifetime... Yes youre influx of Australian Blood has boosted the Ire/U.K. Track Performance there is no doubt & for me its great as I want to see Fast Animals. Every new day theres a possibility that someone somewhere is producing Greatness & long may it continue
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 06:51
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Steven John Lloyd wrote:
Its common in U.K. & Ire for track running surfaces to differ throughout the year....
Same here Steven but to be accurate you shld be adjusting the track for being faster/slower and not saying the dog is running at .07 or .08 per len. You can't penalise/favour the dog for the track being fast/slow. jmo.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 05 Dec 2021 18:47
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Paul Dicks wrote:
michael worth wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
I've purchased a pup from a "late maturing bitch" last year. Let me tell you I'd much rather have a pup break in fast and get faster, than have a plodder that takes 20 starts for the penny to drop. Late Maturer is just another excuse for a dog bum to give a slug more chances than they probably deserve.
Hey Paul ,whats the name of your pup. Ill keep an eye out for it. Fernando Bale X ???????.
Yes I understand Paul, give her time , she must be just coming up two or younger. I think its just a gamble whichever way you go. You can get and ADB foe $3500 X $4500 or a FB for $6500 X $10000 and still end up with a GAP dog. I guess it depends on your budget. Anyway good luck with her. Cheers Please tell me you forked out and went with a Fernando pup. Whats the dams name. Cheers
No it's not a FB. She's by supposed next super sire ADB. Pfft he isn't within cooee of the great dog, completely over rated. She had a run on Friday, might jag a maiden in Townsville and then off to GAP.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 06 Dec 2021 00:05
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
well that same dog racing here will be a lot slower dog assuming what you are saying is correct Steven.
I shld add there was an extremely successful punter in Vic that used .07 as 1 len but he was the only one, the rest of the pros used .06 = 1 len afaik
Here in NSW they calculate 1 len as .08, times may differ as they round off, 1/2 = .04, 3/4 = .06 1/4 = .02 Winning by a length & nk margin will come up as 1&!/4 or 1 length. That is why times don't always marry up to margins!
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 06 Dec 2021 02:10
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who's they?
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 06 Dec 2021 04:52
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How much is a little bump, medium bump, big bump and enormous bump worth in terms of distance and time?
The Rule of Thumb has been been for a long time (give or take a nose, or long nose) as - 0.1 sec equals 1.5 length.
If you use it as a guide you will do just fine.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 06 Dec 2021 05:34
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Mark you have to calculate the checks worth, that's what the good punters do, and a len has always been .06 of a sec. Never heard of it being anything else, other than that one exception.
You cant make a dog run slower to suit your purpose tho, that's ridiculous.
Mark Donohue Australia (Verified User) Posts 3236 Dogs 6 / Races 0 06 Dec 2021 05:55
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In NSW we have always used 0.1 as 1.5 lens.... Always!
Never heard of your one until now. It's so close it's not worth arguing. Who cares if it's that close.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 06 Dec 2021 06:12
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There can be a huge difference if you bet Mark. I think it was proved a few posts above .1 is slightly more than 1.5 lens, but hey if you want a rough guide and it works for you, use it. It's certainly not for me tho, but .08 sheeesh, it's got whiskers.lol.
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 06 Dec 2021 07:50
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
who's they?
They being the powers to be that put this into place. Who else would it be???
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 06 Dec 2021 07:51
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
Mark you have to calculate the checks worth, that's what the good punters do, and a len has always been .06 of a sec. Never heard of it being anything else, other than that one exception.
You cant make a dog run slower to suit your purpose tho, that's ridiculous.
It's 0.666666 to be precise.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5956 Dogs 8 / Races 0 06 Dec 2021 08:04
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yeah rite. lmao
one thing it definitely isn't is 0.66666......that is funny
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