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David Deguara United Kingdom (Team Member) Posts 958 Dogs 81 / Races 93 06 Dec 2021 08:06
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Back in the day a length used to be calculated as .0666 (which Graham mentioned, and I rightly or wrongly still use), however, going off current results/margins/times (NSW - thedogs site), it would appear that .07+ is closer to the figure.
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 06 Dec 2021 08:10
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david deguara wrote:
Back in the day a length used to be calculated as .0666 (which Graham mentioned, and I rightly or wrongly still use), however, going off current results/margins/times (NSW - thedogs site), it would appear that .07+ is closer to the figure.
Thanks David the other WAYNE just loves to argue the point and is always right so I would take his knowledge with a grain of salt. JMO
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 06 Dec 2021 08:20
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
yeah rite. lmao
one thing it definitely isn't is 0.66666......that is funny
Why isn't it?
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 06 Dec 2021 08:23
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
Steven John Lloyd wrote:
.......A Greyhound whos trialing in a second faster ( 12 lengths).....
they go 16 lens per second here Steven....assuming that's a typo?
15 actually.
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 06 Dec 2021 08:24
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Mark Staines wrote:
1 second = 15 lengths !
Correct
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 06 Dec 2021 08:26
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
for sure use it as a rough measurement, also if you say that then half a sec is 7.5lens not 8 lens.
so if you start off by saying: 8 lens is .5 (half a sec) 4 lens is .25 2 lens is .13(rounded off from .125) 1 len is .06
therefore 1.5 lens is between .09 & .10 (not quite .10) so to say "1.5 lengths x 10 = 15 lengths " is not quite mathematically correct :)
So 1 length is .066666???? You are very hypocritical.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5957 Dogs 8 / Races 0 06 Dec 2021 08:30
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david deguara wrote:
Back in the day a length used to be calculated as .0666 (which Graham mentioned, and I rightly or wrongly still use), however, going off current results/margins/times (NSW - thedogs site), it would appear that .07+ is closer to the figure.
David, looking at it holistically in that they run near enuf to 16 lens per sec(not almost per sec), therefore they run:
8 lens in .5 (half a sec) 4 lens in .25 2 lens in .13(rounded off from .125) 1 len in .06
surely
btw that is not what Graham said this is what he said :
Graham Sheather wrote:
It's 0.666666 to be precise.
which is nowhere near it, and anything but precise
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5957 Dogs 8 / Races 0 07 Dec 2021 00:26
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After the first good nights sleep in ages after writing off the good wife's car on a wombat, I got to thinking my data was from over 5 yrs ago when the lure was 2 dogs off the rail here in Vic.
Now with the strenuous objections to a len being 0.06, it appears that the speed of dogs may have altered in the last 5 yrs with the lure arm being further out and thinking about where the lure arms are in Ireland etc., well there's no doubt this may be effecting the speed of dogs these days.
So my sincerest apologies go to: Steven John Lloyd who may well be correct; Mark Staines Mark Donohue & David Deguara
Can someone pls point out to you know who that there is a huge difference between 1 len being equal to 0.066666 and 1 len being equal to 0.666666 (what he originally stated) as I fear he may collect 1K on the punt when he shld've collected 10K if he hasn't already. There is importance in where that decimal point is placed but we all know percentages aren't your strong suit.
And maths is my strong point champ!
Tony Digiorgio Australia (Verified User) Posts 1008 Dogs 25 / Races 0 07 Dec 2021 00:40
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He said, she said............
1 x second = 15 lengths when I went to Puppy School.
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 07 Dec 2021 01:41
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
After the first good nights sleep in ages after writing off the good wife's car on a wombat, I got to thinking my data was from over 5 yrs ago when the lure was 2 dogs off the rail here in Vic.
Now with the strenuous objections to a len being 0.06, it appears that the speed of dogs may have altered in the last 5 yrs with the lure arm being further out and thinking about where the lure arms are in Ireland etc., well there's no doubt this may be effecting the speed of dogs these days.
So my sincerest apologies go to: Steven John Lloyd who may well be correct; Mark Staines Mark Donohue & David Deguara
Can someone pls point out to you know who that there is a huge difference between 1 len being equal to 0.066666 and 1 len being equal to 0.666666 (what he originally stated) as I fear he may collect 1K on the punt when he shld've collected 10K if he hasn't already. There is importance in where that decimal point is placed but we all know percentages aren't your strong suit.
And maths is my strong point champ!
Champ???? You finally got one right!!!! Yes I hope the wombats ok to.
Graham Sheather Australia (Verified User) Posts 4867 Dogs 2 / Races 3 07 Dec 2021 01:44
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
After the first good nights sleep in ages after writing off the good wife's car on a wombat, I got to thinking my data was from over 5 yrs ago when the lure was 2 dogs off the rail here in Vic.
Now with the strenuous objections to a len being 0.06, it appears that the speed of dogs may have altered in the last 5 yrs with the lure arm being further out and thinking about where the lure arms are in Ireland etc., well there's no doubt this may be effecting the speed of dogs these days.
So my sincerest apologies go to: Steven John Lloyd who may well be correct; Mark Staines Mark Donohue & David Deguara
Can someone pls point out to you know who that there is a huge difference between 1 len being equal to 0.066666 and 1 len being equal to 0.666666 (what he originally stated) as I fear he may collect 1K on the punt when he shld've collected 10K if he hasn't already. There is importance in where that decimal point is placed but we all know percentages aren't your strong suit.
And maths is my strong point champ!
If a length and a half = 1 tenth then 1 length is abees off .0666 repeated when I went to school don't know about you but I'll accept your apology.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 07 Dec 2021 03:01
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Request Denied
A very polite request though,lol...but the number of 6's had diminished somewhat....did you realise,that like most human beings,that in fact,you had made a minor one too old mate,Ahhh,who cares anyway,none of us are perfect or always right,at least Rhino apologised..that is the true mark of a person's character & humility,but for some reason,not always an easy thing for some to do .
Like I said Graham,just saying...that's all.
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Dec 2021 03:12
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Daryl Barrett wrote:
Request Denied
A very polite request though,lol...but the number of 6's had diminished somewhat....did you realise,that like most human beings,that in fact,you had made a minor one too old mate,Ahhh,who cares anyway,none of us are perfect or always right,at least Rhino apologised..that is the true mark of a person's character & humility,but for some reason,not always an easy thing for some to do .
Like I said Graham,just saying...that's all.
To late for the Undertaker, He's been Cremated already! Please pick up the Ashes as you leave.
Just saying ..That's all
(The Chuppa Chups live to fight another day, ah)
Wombats in the streets of Melb, Deer roaming around Lithgow. Dear oh dear
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Dec 2021 07:00
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
After the first good nights sleep in ages after writing off the good wife's car on a wombat, I got to thinking my data was from over 5 yrs ago when the lure was 2 dogs off the rail here in Vic.
Now with the strenuous objections to a len being 0.06, it appears that the speed of dogs may have altered in the last 5 yrs with the lure arm being further out and thinking about where the lure arms are in Ireland etc., well there's no doubt this may be effecting the speed of dogs these days.
So my sincerest apologies go to: Steven John Lloyd who may well be correct; Mark Staines Mark Donohue & David Deguara
Can someone pls point out to you know who that there is a huge difference between 1 len being equal to 0.066666 and 1 len being equal to 0.666666 (what he originally stated) as I fear he may collect 1K on the punt when he shld've collected 10K if he hasn't already. There is importance in where that decimal point is placed but we all know percentages aren't your strong suit.
And maths is my strong point champ!
"And maths is my strong point champ!"
Alas, your sincerity is your weak point! and your memory.
(No doubt it will be Deleted).
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 07 Dec 2021 08:23
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Its about $600 dollars a length. Cheers
Terry Jordan Australia (Verified User) Posts 6013 Dogs 0 / Races 0 07 Dec 2021 08:38
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
don't worry about it Daryl, they may have deleted your responses because what you responded to may have had to have been deleted. cheers m8.
Who started deleting posts on this thread? RYAN!!!
( After his "Who are They" sarcastic comment, and couldn't handle a sarcastic reply to his precious liking)
Their is no one else to blame, except his Highness!
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 07 Dec 2021 09:50
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This post is going no where Lets all be honest slow maturing pups are normally just slow either at break-in or 3-4 yr old It dont mater how far they beat Slow pups are slow pups n the older some get they just get slower It cost the same amount to feed n rare n train a slow pup as it does a fast one Good trainers don't want or need slow maturing pups or dogs It bum trainers who persevere with them slow pups because they don't have fast ones
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 07 Dec 2021 11:14
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Funnily enough we may have solved the problem with slow maturing pups. They run a length in 0.08, a handy one runs a length in .0666 and the ones worth keeping run it in .06.
Like Wayne said, keeping a "late maturing pup" is just another dog bum excuse to give a slug too many chances.
Sandro Bechini Australia (Verified User) Posts 19488 Dogs 15268 / Races 1856 07 Dec 2021 21:25
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Slow is a relative term
Slow to Jason Thompson, might be a rocket to Wayne Garner, just saying.....
Wayne Garner Australia (Verified User) Posts 743 Dogs 26 / Races 16 07 Dec 2021 22:25
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Sandro Bechini wrote:
Slow is a relative term
Slow to Jason Thompson, might be a rocket to Wayne Garner, just saying.....
Might have been 7-10yrs ago Sandro Wayne garner ain't interested in owning or traning or breeding another greyhound I get more fun watching other people's dogs these days
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